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Wmhegbli Said:
"but all the reading in the world will not bring in income and shows. At some point you need to follow the advice and actully do the work."

Now you are starting to sound like my wife........
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I've read Book Yourself Solid by Michael Port and it is a great book but THE BEST book on how to get gigs is "The Wealthy Speaker" by Jane Atkinson. She talks about booking yourself as a speaker but speaking engagements and entertainment is very similar. She tells you exactly what she did to get a speaker booked from 2 gigs a year to over 80 gigs at a minimum of $10,000 per engagement.
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Well, I like Dave Dee's stuff a lot.

I will give Dave a testimonial -- and it's one I've given in person
as well.

Dave saved my life.

If it wasn't for Dave Dee, I would've been yet another worker bee
that got caught in the maelstrom of the current recession.

Before Dave Dee, I had no idea how to actually book gigs. I had
performed for years, but mostly through the help of agents and a
few that I happened to luck into through folks I knew.

Dave taught me how to create systems to generate leads; how
to write compelling sales copy; the importance of thinking of
your magic business like a "business," with real practical
information on running that business - like creating a business
plan, how to run ads, knowing who you are targeting with your
services, etc.

I now read every single thing I can get my hands on relative
to marketing and sales - from everyone, whether they're selling
services, products, or what-have-you. I absolutely recommend
you do exactly the same.

Nevertheless, without the original course Dave produced
("Ultimate Insider Secrets Course for Magicians" - now the
"90 Day Market Mastery System") I would've remained at Microsoft
and ... inevitably, trash canned with all my former co-workers
when the empire shut down the entire Simulations Product Unit.

Left without skills to market myself, yet another commodity
facing a very difficult economy.

That's not the case with my life or career right now.

I give Dave a huge percentage of the credit and thanks. He
opened my eyes.

Dave had and still has a hugely giving heart for truly helping
people succeed in living out their dreams. Since taking over
the Magic Marketing Center, I've tried my best to live up to
that standard.
"59 Ways To Recession Proof Your Entertainment Business -- FREE!"
http://www.GetLeadsLikeCrazy.com

"How To Make $25,000 a Year Doing Birthday Parties Part-Time"
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I have books, audio tapes, and VHS tapes dealing with several professional speakers; Zig Ziglar, Dale Carnegie, Les Brown, Brian Tracy, Tony Alessandra, (just to name a few). I have listened to audio from several magicians too. I noticed some (not all) magicians are copying from the professional speakers. Recently I read a post too good to be true from another magician. I feel certain ones are not being honest by making the amount they mentioned, so they rather try scamming other magicians. That is how they are really making their money. Now remember, I did not say all the magicians selling marketing kits, just certain ones. So certain magician marketing kits I have I will give credit to because of the additional information dealing with magician marketing ideas the professionals do not speak of.
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@benji you are right on. The informarion in the wealthy speaker is invaluable.
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Good testimony, Jack.

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I've purchased Jack Turk's materials around Aug or Sep 2010. It contains some excellent material. But don't fool youself. This course is no joke. You need to be prepared to roll up your sleeves and work. I have a solid show. I'm no where near where I want to be, but I'm good enough to get consistent positive feedback from customers. With that said, I spend about 80% of my available time for Magic on marketing. Since I began professionally in May of 2010, I've been doing on average one show each week for the last 3 months. In about another 6-8 weeks, I expect to have implemented as much of Jack's course as I want to focus on for this stage of my p/t career in Magic.

I also just purchased Jim Snack's course based on recommendations here on the Café. I like to always have stuff to listen to as I drive and material to read when I have a few minutes. I know, I know...I'm a glutton for punishment. Jim's going to put me to work too (pun intended). The bottom line is that no matter how much information we accumulate it is all worthless unless we dedicate ourselfs to DOING what these awesome men teach.

[Note to Dean....be on the lookout. I'll likely be heading your way too, once I digest what these brothers have loaded on me.]
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Hey Mikeeeeeeee!

Spot-On brother! Ya’ gotta’ work-it f you want results. Yeah, I know “We All Know That”, and yet sooooooo many miss the principle in ACTION.

GREAT Choices Michael! You have to some powerful solution at your disposal there brother!

Just an FYI;
I very purposefully never talk about or promote any of my products and/or process here at the café… my aim is to simpley serve people with real results with all of the free videos, downloads, gifts and live events and so on, and if some choose to do their own investigation and due diligence and stumble upon some of my stuff and choose to invest n their success, I am honored… no biggy.

Either way, I’ve go yer’ back brother Michael! – Let me know how I may be of value, service and support. I’m here for ya’ bud!

I am at your service and In HIS Service,
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Just an FYI...
Posted: Dec 7, 2006 12:42pm TheDean Says

Also, The "Abra-KID-abra, Instant Author, Profit Making System is worth a look-see. http://www.AbraKIDabraSuccess.com - - Certainly it's not ONLY a "Magic" book, but it sells incredibly well and can be used for sooooo many different kinds of marketing and promotional outcomes! This may serve your needs if THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR NOW.
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=44

Just to be clear, transparent, etc...Dean you have talked about & promoted your products here at the Café. Just an FYI, no biggy.

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Why would you go back 4 years to find a post to say "yes you did" and take away from a thread and offer no value in this thread to begin with? Kevin I know y'all could add a lot of value on this topic. Not sure the purpose of that post.

I find it funny people lurk on a thread and jump in to find fault vs jumping in to add value. Just my observation. I would love to have seen at least a thought on this thread
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I also remember Dean saying something about his product another time on here.
I think it was back in the early part of 1952. Shame on him.

Tom Smile


jonathan, I agree, Why?
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KEVIN: - "Just to be clear, transparent, etc...Dean you have talked about & promoted your products here at the Café. Just an FYI, no biggy.

Kevin"


Hehehehe... yep, busted. Ha!

Yeah, I guess I may have responded to a question or two (or how-ever many you can find… hehehe!) in over 1500 shares I have participated and discussion around here over the years (in this example 2006) with mentions and responses in the context of the thread along with other recommendations and resources to answer a question and participate in a congruent, helpful discussion… my bad.

50 lashes with a wet noodle for me in the public square! - - Whoo Hoo!

I am at your service and In HIS Service,
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Thank You Jonathan & Tom
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As I mentioned, just an FYI, no biggie.

If it was that bad then please send the wet noodles lashes my way as well...hehehe

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On a serious note and to add to this discussion as Jonathandupree asks...here is one book that has done tons for us.

Marketing Outrageously, by Jon Spoelstra. Jon is also know for the book, Ice to the Eskimos. Jon is known for his sports marketing, which is a unique industry, similar in uniqueness to our industry. In one of his sales pitches to season tickets holders that were dropping like flies, he Fedex'ed rubber chickens. This generated tons of free publicity and over $2.5 million in revenue. For the record, Mark Cuban, owner of the Dallas Mavericks digs into this book time and time again for motivation.

In another part of the book he tells the story of a marketing department complaining they didn't have the budget...this was AFTER Jon was generating $3 for every $1 spent. So how much do you budget in the MIDDLE of this scenario?...every dollar you can get your hands on.

He asks questions that we should be asking ourselves..."What is it going to take to dominate this industry?" "What is it going to take to make $100,000, $500,000, etc.

His premise is that you can’t get exceptional sales results with mediocre marketing. Our industry is FILLED with mediocre marketing. Go to a buyer's trade show and watch as 98% of them stand there handing out flyers and MAYBE have a video running on a TV, or even worse a laptop. Then find the 2% of the people that are doing something DIFFERENT.

Many threads here at the Café talk about being original, having your own material, show etc. Yet when it comes to marketing your act...most everyone is the same. DO something different, BE something different. The subtitle to Jon's book is: How to Increase Your Revenue by Staggering Amounts. IF that is what you & I are after, then THAT is what WE SHOULD BE DOING and NOT just treading along as SO MANY DO.

I truly hope that helps and inspires just one person.
Kevin
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Sounds like a pasta party to me... Whoo Hoo!

:D

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Deano (serving you) in Reno
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Kevin, that sounds like a great book. Thanks.
Let me add that it's important to keep the fire fueled.
Reading such books and success stories can help.

A business person should always be searching for motivation. Without it you will fail.
Without motivation a business is no more than a poor clock punching job.
Without motivation your education is useless, you not going anywhere.

Like they say, "If you care at all, you'll get some results.
If you care enough, you'll get incredible results."

Tom
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On 2011-01-05 17:42, briansmagic wrote:
I'd like to hear from the guys who have purchased the Dave Dee/Jack Turk course. Have you applied what they teach in the course? If so, how has it affected your business? I'd love to hear feedback, success (or non-success) stories, etc.


The cynic in me is wondering if you're looking to do a compare and contrast excerise here, between their material and your marketing "course".
Good Thoughts.


Reuben Dunn


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I've implemented some of the material in Jack Turk's course. I'm a part-timer and my available time to implement all that I want from his course is much less than I'd like. However, here are the changes that resulted from my efforts following his advice over about a six month period:

1. Bookings up from 1x per month to 4x per month on average.
2. Fees up from $100 per show to $149 per show for bdays...other shows vary.

I've read through Jim Snacks's course in the last month and that's inspired more improvements also. I three shows last Saturday and am on target for at least doubling my income over last year.

@ Kevin...thanks for the tip on Marketing Outrageously. I'll get to that after digesting and implementing this other material.

For many that I know, Magic is a hobby that they enjoy, and that is fine. However, when I decided to make it a p/t business, I quickly learned that it isn't the right business for the feint of heart, timid or lazy. It takes s a lot of work ...but I LOVE it!
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For the close-up worker, I like Lou Serrano's course. It's chock full of great practical advice. I just started studying it, and have used a few techniques that have already increased my business.
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