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PSI POKER by Ben Harris

Over the past couple of years, Ben Harris products spell excitement, quality and ingenious thinking. Imagine my delight when every now and again, I get an email in my inbox with a link to the latest Ben Harris PDF. I was possibly most excited about this routine. This kind of effect is right up my street. This is the kind of effect that I can use often in most settings and blow everyone away.

So the effect in essence. You introduce an envelope, hand it to your spectator to keep hold of until the end of the effect. You bring out a deck which is mixed. The deck is cut by the spectator. (and it really is a free choice of cut. They can cut it several times) The spectator then deals a poker hand to both the magician and them-self. The magician wins his hand by only 1 point! But of course, had the spectator cut somewhere else in the deck, they may have one. This is the point when the envelope is re-introduced into the mix. Inside is a prediction which outlines exactly whats happened. “You will lose by only one point! But had you have cut just one card deeper in the deck... Your wining card is now on top of the deck!”. They turn the card over and sure enough, its the winning card.

What I LOVE about this is, it’s as fair as the description. You have no manipulation over the deck at all AND it’s a normal, standard deck of cards. There are also different revelation options included. One advanced and one standard but both pack an absolute punch. There are extra notes and ideas at the end of the book to keep the brain ticking and with a bit of tweaking, you could even have the winning card in the envelope from the beginning if you wished. The book is incredibly in depth and the routine is absolute gold. This could fit in from close up/ walk around to parlor or stage. It’s a strong routine which really looks about as fair as you could make it. The patter side of things, it would be hard to bypass the patter as the way the routine is set up means your having to deal a poker hand. Most people know the poker hands either way and if not, the way your ending, it’s obvious how one would win/ loose.

End Nots: Whilst the method is not new, the way in which is has been used in this routine is both clever and practical. The effect seems like real magic and has a completely hands off feel. Could be used for many kinds of performing situation and I give it 5 out of 5 marks. A brilliant piece of mentalism!

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There are no "points" in poker.
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The points system, I'm presuming is to help someone who is perhaps not fluent in Poker to understand. If you have a king over their queen, mention that is a point over. Nice little way to help them along!

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Actually, it's total crap.......and you'll look like a total idiot talking about "points".
There is NO points system in poker......PERIOD.

I guess if you want to look like a total idiot in front of any of the 40-50 million Americans who do play poker, this is the trick for you.
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Wow, I don't think it poses that much of a problem!
I believe that it means that you won because your card was one point (numerical value) more than The specs, so you would win that hand.


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The problem with all that poker-effects on the market, where I live (Europe) nobody gives a sh... about poker. Fullhouse, royal flush, nobody knows what you' re talking about. Pitty.
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Firstly, silverking, Chill out man! No need to be rude. The points do NOT need to be mentioned if it doesn't fit your style. Its just to help things along.

fvdbeek, I'm completely with you there. Ive not ever played Poker and although I have a basic understanding, I wouldn't easily know the different hands. Luckily, Ben's put it together in such a way that it will be obvious what your on about. In my experience being in London, those who don't know about poker, like knowing about card cheats and at every gig I get asked about cheating at cards. I think with the right presentation, it will fit most audience types.

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A Queen/Jack beats a Queen/10 "BY ONE!"

What's the problem? None.

The dealers in 3 international casinos I've played in over the last two weeks thought the routine sound and profound. I've fooled dozens of seasoned players and DEALERS with this over the last month while on a working holiday.

SilverKing is just being SilverKing. He acts the same way when ever discussing my products.

As always, our ebooks come with a 7 day money back warranty. Play with it for 7 days and if you don't think you'll ever use it, or you don't think you've received good and original magic for your money, then simply ask for a refund.

Pre-order and save $5 at http://www.wowbound.com (you'll then be able to make up your own mind after the ebook is released on Jan 31.)
Don't forget, if you are a BACKSTORY MEMBER, you will receive this FREE as part of your membership.

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JamieD always gives Ben Harris effects favourable reviews here on the Café before they are released.

I'd like to hear someone else's opinion first. Someone who actually spent money on the trick, before I part with my hard earned.

No disrespect JamieD but you must admit that by bolding words such as 'I LOVE' in your review, makes it come across as sales spiel.

Does anyone else agree?
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Hi Andi,

We're just back at home from touring. Pre-publication/peer review copies have JUST been sent out. Others will chime in in due course.

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Andi, It upsets me when people say I give favourable reviews to certain individuals. With all due respect, would it be the reason I give Ben Harris tricks a good review is because the effects are clever, practical and effect that's I will/ do/ Have used in my actual paid gigs?

Furthermore, if you look at my track record for reviewing Ben's effects, some I have mentioned are perhaps not suitable for me and my working style. I only give effects a good review if I believe the trick is worth telling people about. I review both effects I receive on a review basis and effects I pay out for to enjoy myself. I love magic and I love new and exciting plots. PSI Poker is one. I have been performing it all day alongside Free Will Of Fate by Jimy Fingers and both effect compliment each other wonderfully. This is a definite worker.

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I don't think it's a problem in the slightest and kinda bridges that gap for those not in the know about poker, but let's be honest, I doubt this would go in the repertoire of anyone doing a really serious poker demo because although you are beating them by one cards, it just isn't terminology used. But hey, you don't use an envelope in poker either so no issues. Sounds like a nice piece of magic with lots of scope for presentation
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On 2011-01-13 17:23, JamieD wrote:
Andi, It upsets me when people say I give favourable reviews to certain individuals. With all due respect, would it be the reason I give Ben Harris tricks a good review is because the effects are clever, practical and effect that's I will/ do/ Have used in my actual paid gigs?

Furthermore, if you look at my track record for reviewing Ben's effects, some I have mentioned are perhaps not suitable for me and my working style. I only give effects a good review if I believe the trick is worth telling people about. I review both effects I receive on a review basis and effects I pay out for to enjoy myself. I love magic and I love new and exciting plots. PSI Poker is one. I have been performing it all day alongside Free Will Of Fate by Jimy Fingers and both effect compliment each other wonderfully. This is a definite worker.

Jamie Daws

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On 2011-01-13 15:23, fvdbeek wrote:
The problem with all that poker-effects on the market, where I live (Europe) nobody gives a sh... about poker. Fullhouse, royal flush, nobody knows what you' re talking about. Pitty.


You know, ten years ago you could say that and be absolutely right - but now, I don't know. I live in the UK and everyone I know is 'poker savvy' but ten years back this wouldn't have been the case. Same in France, Scandinavia... so many Europeans play Poker now.

I think this has opened up a wealth of tricks that were previously useless to us; now they make sense to so many more people.

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This effect is really good and there shouldn't be so much animosity about it. If the point system isn't your thing, don't mention it in your prediction. It could read more like this,

"I see us playing a very close game. You will keep coming close to hitting a straight but you will keep missing your card. Maybe if you would have cut a little deeper or if the deck was shuffled a bit more. In this case, I will win by one card. In fact, I see this as a double edged sword. My cards will be one card higher in value, and your cut will have missed your card by one. Turn over the top card of the deck and better luck next time."

In my example, you cover the closeness of your hands without mentioning points at all.

This really is a good effect and is within the grasp of any skill level. There are some Poker Deal effects out there that rely on sleight of hand or other means to get the specific cards required into play. With Ben's effect, after the cards are given to the spectator and the deck cut, they handle the cards from that point out. I think that is a strong selling point.

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Yes, this effect is very good. Self working which is nice! Point refers to the numerical value of the card. It's a vernacular thing, not at all related to a "points system".
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On 2011-01-13 19:24, Cameron Francis wrote:
It's a vernacular thing, not at all related to a "points system".

Funny, in Ben's blurb for the effect, he says:
"Alas, it is noted that the performer has JUST BARELY WON the hand-by a SINGLE POINT."
(his caps)

The "points" reference is Ben's, and Ben's alone.
It's really simple..........there are no points in poker.

You're beat by a higher hand.

...........but hey, who really cares if it's accurate or not, magicians really don't need to worry about actually sounding like they know what they're talking about, they're magicians!!

BTW, do you burn cards before the flop?....before the turn?......before the river?.........you know, like in a real game?
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To the above two. This hasn't been released yet so I assume you got a free copy of this effect. Correct?
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A king/queen beats a king/jack by ONE...

You could say by one point, or simply "that was close!" OR "THAT IS A HIGHER HAND!"

Dress it with the words best for you and your audience.

EDH: several pre-release and peer review copies have been sent out. Both Donny and Cameron received copies because I respect their opinions. I believe most people do. Have you seen either of these gentleman leading anyone astray?

SilverKing: this is a piece of entertainment designed to loosely infer a game of hold-em. It is not 100% as per the rule book. But (in my opinion/experience) it never strays far enough outside protocol to raise suspicion.

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So when one of the 50 or so million poker players says "hey.....you didn't burn a card!"..........you say?

..........."this is a piece of entertainment designed to only loosely infer a game of hold-em, and I can't burn a card or it'll disrupt my stack"

BTW, a King/Queen in a straight forms a straight..........a King/Jack in the same scenario isn't a hand at all. The King/Queen isn't a "higher hand", it's an actual hand.
A pair of 2's beats a unfilled gut-shot straight with a King/Jack in the hand............in other words, the lowest poker hand in the deck beats your King/Jack "one point lower" scenario. (in fact, any hand with a single Ace in it will beat your unfilled gut-shot straight draw with K-J as the high cards).

Your King/Jack isn't a "lower hand".......it's pure poker rubbish, just another unfilled gut-shot straight draw that goes into the muck.

That's all magic somehow?..............anyway, this post is only to highlight that this "trick" goes WAY outside poker protocol, and could only be performed for folks who knew absolutely nothing about poker.
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