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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
No, really.
I finally got around to reading Watchmen (I know, I'm only 25 years too late), and here at the end of Chapter IV is the following: "The suggestion that the presence of a superhuman has inclined the world more towards peace is refudiated by the sharp increase in both Russian and American nuclear stockpiles since the advent of Dr. Manhattan."
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kcg5 Inner circle who wants four fried chickens and a coke 1868 Posts |
You mean that discovery cancelled the show?
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition!!!!!
"History will be kind to me, as I intend to write it"- Sir Winston Churchill |
Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
What happened to name calling caused a shooting so we have to stop it? Nice to see how long it lasted from the left LOL.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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I was actually saying that Palin's apparent verbal gaffe was not a gaffe after all. Lighten up, guy.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Yea this is in no way a jab at Palin.
Danny Doyle
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
*Sigh*
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kcg5 Inner circle who wants four fried chickens and a coke 1868 Posts |
Danny, I was only joking. From what I hear, she has interests with the coming campaign and having a show, equal time, ect would mess all that up. I watched a couple shows, not all that bad..
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition!!!!!
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
I really enjoyed her film about nailing things.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
ClintonMagus Inner circle Southwestern Southeast 3997 Posts |
I think it was the Washington Post that wasted an entire article on this, analyzing whether it was actually possible for her to have made this particular typo while tweeting...
Good grief...
Things are more like they are today than they've ever been before...
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
The fact that it was in that novel 25 years ago, makes me think that it could have been in wider circulation, and she, and others, picked it up. Anyone else know of a use prior to Palin's of that word?
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On 2011-01-18 17:57, landmark wrote: It may have been in wider circulation, but certainly not WIDE circulation. I think if it were commonly used, no one would have been able to make such an issue out of it. Anyway, excerpt from this site: http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2463 I note that refudiate has been invented before. A Google Books search turns up four instances. The most notable one is probably this passage in John Sladek's 1984 story "Answers", published in The Lunatics of Terra: http://books.google.com/books?id=M_cbDmpdB-UC The other three seem to be isolated cases that might well be writers' or transcribers' slips of the finger. But I expect that a search of student essays would turn up quite a few more. And David Segal, "When capitalism meets cannabis", NYT 6/25/2010, offers another perspective: …interviewing pot sellers is unlike interviewing anyone else in business. Simple yes-or-no questions yield 10-minute soliloquies. Words are coined on the spot, like “refudiate,” and regular words are used in ways that make sense only in context. One guy kept saying “rue” as though it meant “reluctant,” as in “I think the state was rue to act.” Many have a long history with marijuana, and they remain — let’s just run with it — rue to share their names. One dispensary employee swears that his hippie parents christened him Onefree, but he prefers to be called Dave and everyone calls him Van. --- Balducci here again: "The Lunatics of Terra" BTW is described as a shambolic book, sci-fi type of book, and a quick parsing of a few pages from it shows that it uses a lot of unusual words and / or even makes up words as it goes along (e.g., "ten-wek"). So, it may not be a great example of refudiate being a commonly used word. Indeed, it's first use in the text is as follows: "I refudiate that." "You what?" Jane felt suddenly cold all over ... And how come he uses the word "refudiate" on tv and you use it five minutes later? From which it appears that even Jane in the book is questioning the use of the word.
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts |
I'm still trying to vindicate Obama by finding a reference to all 58 states.
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Magical Dimensions Inner circle 5001 Posts |
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On 2011-01-18 22:16, rockwall wrote: He also misnamed something while in Canada. Yea, what a dummy. Ray |
critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
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It may have been in wider circulation, but certainly not WIDE circulation. . I'd say that movie about nailin' things was in wide circulation. Really wide.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
Seriously though, I'd rather spend my time worrying about someone's take on economic policy and nuclear war than the guffaws we can find in thier thousands of speeches.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
EXACTLY. Obama for example (who I am happy to disagree with on EVERYTHING) did say 57 states. I am sure that he meant that they had been going from town to town to town and state to state to state. He meant he was in that many states, not that we had that many different states. It does not make him a moron, it means he was tired from a long campaign, and had given about 100,000 words and some will get confused.
Same goes for any official and for Sarah Palin. It is possible that "I can see Russia from my house" was a simply literary flair. I wish that each side could apply this sort of understanding so we get away from calling people idiots and such. 8 years Bush was hounded as if he was a moron. People get all over Palin and the other side jumps on Obama. Lets talk about issues, not on mistakes in language.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
Agreed. All politicians and public speakers say stupid things and make verbal faux pas from time to time. For the most part, they shouldn't be judged too critically on that (unless they do it MUCH more often than others, perhaps).
What it is fair to judge them (any politician or public speaker) on is how they react when these mistakes are brought to their attention. Whether they acknowledge and correct the mistakes, or whether they deny, deny them and / or attack the person doing the correcting. I take no sides here. I have no 'vote' or say in U.S. elections. I do hope you all can all come together and find some middle ground on important issues, sooner rather than later. Sorry to say, I'm not holding my breath until then.
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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Magical Dimensions Inner circle 5001 Posts |
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On 2011-01-18 22:39, Dannydoyle wrote: I agree, maybe he was just thinking about the 57 islamic states in the Organization of the Islamic Conference. LOL It just didn't sound cool to say the number 57 at that time. LOL R |
Doug Higley 1942 - 2022 7152 Posts |
Danny, Palin never said she sees Russia from her house. That was a Tina Fay quote on SNL. Palin did refer to the closeness of Russia which is accurate but not cringe worthy comedic fodder.
Obama's '57 states' was sniped at from the right to be a slipped reference to the (miscounted but popularly thought to be) 57 states of Islam. It comes down to cutting some slack...or better yet...the application of the Golden Rule.
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