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Merlyn of 8
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I have used both Fantasio and Walsh canes, I like the Walsh apearing cane because it is very stable when produced and may be held out horizontaly with no woble or curveture as the Fantasio is prone to do, how ever in a sequence of many canes apearing quickly (from a silk) the Fantasio cane works quite well, I use ten of them in this effect and hand each of them to a helper as I produce more they are handled and held verticaly so there is no curve to see and the woble is kept to a minimum, I like the Fantasio vanishing cane better than the steel cane.....I have yet to get cut by the plastic cane!!!!!!!.
And that is my two cents worth on this subject, enjoy!!!!!!
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Thomas Cleveland

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Rcitgo
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I saw my first apearing "Walsh" cane in 1964 when I was nine year's old.A magician named Phillip Morris saw me doing pocket tricks to the kids waiting in line before we were let in the theatre.He invited me backstage to help out with the show.He did the apearing cane and his assistant handed me the cane and I put it on a backstage table.He also did the Super X suspention which I helped carry to his Uhaul trailer.I was walking on air for the next six months so I use Walsh canes instead of Fantasio. Smile
Alan Munro
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Don't forget that if you use a hank with your cane, use one that is diamond cut. It helps the cane to work faster.
RiffClown
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I spent the money and purchased the Harakhan. I really like it. Like funmagic implied, if you work with a metal cane, cuts are a very real danger. (I have one now, luckily nowhere too serious.)
Rob "Riff, the Magical Clown" Eubank aka RiffClown
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Peter Marucci
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I can recall about 50 years ago, on the old Ed Sullivan TV variety show, almost every magician who ever appeared did the vanishing or appearing cane.
And just about everyone in the live and TV audience knew how it worked.
In short, it may have been "pretty" to the magician but to the people he was performing for it was just "lame".
But don't let that stop you; do the vanishing or appearing cane if you want.
Just don't say I didn't tell you! Smile
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Peter Marucci
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RiffClown
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"Magic is not the method but the presentation." I'll consider myself warned. I'm not saying my apprearing cane act is the greatest, but I'm pleased with the quality of the cane I purchased. I agree that a lot of effects had become stagnant (Svengali Decks, linking rings, and to some extent cups and balls for instance). In the right context, an appearing cane (or my ostrich feather to cane) works pretty well. Just don't overuse the effect. Once is quite enough. I by no means would base an entire act on it but it does make a pretty good explanation point. For the predominantly younger audiences I have on a regular basis, I'm pretty sure that they missed Ed Sullivan so it's a pretty fresh effect for them. The adults in the audience seem pretty amazed as well. 95% of my audience is under 45. (mostly military and dependants)
:hmm:

Respectfully, (and you know I very much respect yopur opinion)
Rob
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Peter Marucci
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Riff makes a very important point:
Something that may seem "stale" to the magician, may be brand new to the audience.
And, therefore, is an amazing trick!
Remember: Just because you may be bored with it, doesn't mean everyone else is; in fact, some may never have seen it.
cheers,
Peter Marucci
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Dave Scribner
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Since I had nothing to do this morning, I sat and read each of the post in this topic. I certainly hope MagicGSX has purchased his cane by now. I think the bottom line answer to his original question of which is the best cane to buy is really "it's a matter of taste and what you're going to do with it."

I personally think the Fantasio appearing cane is too flimsy to work with, but that's because it doesn't fit my act. I'm not finding fault with Fantasio products. I use the rest of them with great success. I do a very formal stage act with doves and my wife and I dress accordingly, tails and evening dress. The appearing and vanishing cane fit well with the act because they seem to be a natural accessory.

Ever see James Dimmare's act? If he came out without a cane, it would seem very unnatural. Whether or not anyone still uses a walking stick doesn't matter. It is the character portrayal that makes the difference.

I, too, own Harakan canes and feel they are the best on the market (my opinion) however since they are bronze in color, they don't fit with a black tuxedo, so I use the Walsh canes. ( I am fortunate to have several of each from way back). I do use the Harakan in my kids show as a vanishing cane in newspaper. It works well. Especially since to close the act, the kids make the cane reappear. Enough of my opinion and two cents.

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harris
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Years ago I lost my Walsh Cane.

I found another last December in a "magic
shop/basement" in Denver Colorado.

I wish I would have bought the other.

The gentleman was a former President of
the SAM. He was a delight to visit and
had a wealth of stories about the "old days"
and of many magicians from the past.

His name was I believe Schuman. (My nearly normal memory may not have the correct name)Unfortuneatly he passed away this year. My prayers are with him and his family.

I use my cane in a my Library Programs, musical opener to the tune
of Bugs Bunny Overture. It fits the campy
and nostalgic theme.

This is it, no more rehearsing. This is not
a dress rehearsal. This is YOUR MAGICAL LIFE.
Welcome to it.

I also have a new old Blue Fantasio Cane.
It is the first I have owned. The price was
too reasonable to pass up.
I may try the "old" blue 260 balloon to cane.
Whats old is new.

I wrote Fantasio and asked him about the other colors, and he said they were discontinued because of low sales.

I am looking for another blue one, if the
price is right.(enter Bob Barker)

Harris
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***Kev***
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Fantasio works fine for me,
:)
I agree, Walsh ones are sturdier, but price is my main reason I work with Fantasio over metal ranges.
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I think what Peter may have been getting at was what the reason for purchase actually was. The cane itself is not very impressive as far as the actual appearance, but the use is very obvious....Misdirection! The apearance and display is for the purpose of misdirection. Logically it should show up at the time the medium to large stage peices show up and should be used for directing spectator attention to specific points on the piece being worked and also to give a sense of separation from the piece. If you only touch an Item with the tip, in the mind of the spectator you have not really handled it. It is also very useful in waving around inside and outside of props to show there are no hidden strings, pieces of glass, etc.
(wherever you point with it the spectator will look)

Am I close here, Peter?
...think not that all wisdom is in your school. You may have studied other paths,but, it is important to remember that no matter who you are or where you come from, there is always more to learn.
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