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I have not seen another thread on this so here it is. This is brand new and a prerelease. I have not seen it yet but the AD says no switching. Just wanted to see what your thoughts are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gRsboZtwOg

AD: Never before have we seen a nail bend that:

a) didn't require a switch with a prebent nail, or
b) one that didn't require you to conceal some bending device, or
c) one that actually bends the nail in the spectators hand!


MJM is releasing it. I have no financial interest but I do like PK work.
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But if you go to HP and see everything that comes with the nail, it becomes clear what you are purchasing and how it works since it is simply a nail and not a fork. I think it is a good price.

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Just got the email advertising this and came here to start a thread on it myself!

Looks interesting but yet again on the demo video it cuts when the 'magic' happens.

Straight nail : Stick up caption : Hey look the nail has bent!

I'm sorry but unless I see a full video, I won't be buying it as you don't get captions in real life.

I do wish they wouldn't do this on demos. Why should people pay money for a product that they haven't seen?
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I actually like this a lot. Makes sense with a nail. I also like that it can be bent back.

Might be jumpin on this one!
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If you put an ice cold nail in a spectator's hand I think they will notice the temperature extreme and comment on it.
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Good thoughts, look forward to reviews in 1-2 months.
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I agree with Paul. Unless someone can convince me that the temp isn't an issue.
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On 2011-02-02 14:03, Shrubsole wrote:


I do wish they wouldn't do this on demos. Why should people pay money for a product that they haven't seen?


You must be quite young. Years ago there was no such thing as demo's. You simply read a description in a catalog, and or hopefully got the chance to see it demonstrated at your local brick and mortar magic store.
However, other than that, when there IS a demo it should be straight up, NO cuts and or just a demo of spectator's reactions albeit this one was pretty close to being as it should be.....almost. I think we are all getting a tad spoiled, and admittedly....yours truly. Smile
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Hmmm Smile The Perfect Nail Bend Smile Smile

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On 2011-02-02 14:40, mike storz wrote:

I actually like this a lot. Makes sense with a nail. I also like that it can be bent back.


Yes! The bending and then unbending of the NAIL was clever thinking by Katto (the inventor).

IMHO, The The Perfect Nail Bend (props) has been very reasonably priced. Also the The Advertisement very clearly tells you (reading between the lines) as to what exactly is involved and what makes the effect work. A very honest Ad.

However I have two concerns regarding the prop(s) (i.e. the Nails).

First: Since there are two props (gimmick nails) involved in the effect, I do hope that the manufacturers have taken special care to ensure that both the gimmick nails have their bends at the same (almost) position and at the same angle. This is not so, as seen in the demo vid.

Second: As seen in the demo video, the nail is picked up from the ground & the spectators are told that the nail is HOT. Later, when placing of a chilled nail on the palm of the spectator, is going to be a bit tricky. This will need a better convincing patter for the spectator(s).

Overall, IMHO, the Perfect Nail Bend is a nice effect and is priced right.

Just my personal opinion! Smile Smile

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I think this is priced right, and I think this technology is very convincing for a spectator as long as the spectator is looking not touching. However, I am not sure where this will be useful. A nail is a bit small for standup work or stage unless you have camera shooting the object closeup. This is obviously not suitable for walkaround, so I am really not sure where one would use this.

I think the price is right, but if you can't find a suitable venue to use it what difference does the price make?
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Looks cool. Will be interested to hear more.
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Yea, what audience would be good for this? Not the grabbers and too small for stage. Perhaps a medium size parlor venue perhaps.
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I love the premise and technology behind this type of effect, however would like to know is it completely contained , or is like the old versions where you have to keep buying a certain something ? How long does it last before nail starts bending , and as someone else pointed out is it ice cold to the touch. Would be great if they have really cracked it this time with this type of technology.
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How about a safety/work glove, to 'protect' the spec from potential injury? That way the cold wont be an issue and you can easily justify the glove when the spec tries to bend the nail.
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It says no switching, yet in the video he switches the nail!
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On 2011-02-02 18:53, gaffed wrote:
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On 2011-02-02 14:03, Shrubsole wrote:


I do wish they wouldn't do this on demos. Why should people pay money for a product that they haven't seen?


You must be quite young. Years ago there was no such thing as demo's. You simply read a description in a catalog, and or hopefully got the chance to see it demonstrated at your local brick and mortar magic store.
However, other than that, when there IS a demo it should be straight up, NO cuts and or just a demo of spectator's reactions albeit this one was pretty close to being as it should be.....almost. I think we are all getting a tad spoiled, and admittedly....yours truly. Smile


I'm 48 and been doing magic since 1973 (That was before the internet!)

In my mind if someone in videoing a demo keeping the 'move' part out of it just makes it look suspicious. If the move is good enough for the audience to have to watch then it should be good enough for us to watch. If it isn't then how are we meant to fool an audience with it?

So show the 'move' and then let us decide if we could sell that to and audience.

As I've been burnt since 1973, I now flatly refuse to part with any money until I've seen a full demo on video or in person. If more people did that instead of just filling up their bottom draws with junk that they will never use, then maybe the con artists would be out of business.
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If you don't unbend the nail there is no "move."
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On 2011-02-02 18:53, gaffed wrote:
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On 2011-02-02 14:03, Shrubsole wrote:


I do wish they wouldn't do this on demos. Why should people pay money for a product that they haven't seen?


You must be quite young. Years ago there was no such thing as demo's. You simply read a description in a catalog, and or hopefully got the chance to see it demonstrated at your local brick and mortar magic store.
However, other than that, when there IS a demo it should be straight up, NO cuts and or just a demo of spectator's reactions albeit this one was pretty close to being as it should be.....almost. I think we are all getting a tad spoiled, and admittedly....yours truly. Smile


I'd say the opposite. It used to be that, if you read a description in a reputable dealer's catalog, it was honest and fair.

The level of hype and nonsense in modern magic ads IMHO is what has caused the backlash, and its an appropriate one.
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Has anyone had first hand experience with this? If so, please pm me. I'm considering this but have some questions.

Mike Smile
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