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On 2011-02-03 11:07, Shrubsole wrote:

In my mind if someone in videoing a demo keeping the 'move' part out of it just makes it look suspicious. If the move is good enough for the audience to have to watch then it should be good enough for us to watch. If it isn't then how are we meant to fool an audience with it?

So show the 'move' and then let us decide if we could sell that to and audience.

As I've been burnt since 1973, I now flatly refuse to part with any money until I've seen a full demo on video or in person. If more people did that instead of just filling up their bottom draws with junk that they will never use, then maybe the con artists would be out of business.


Sorry, maybe I sounded a tad harsh in my statement which was not my intention. Video demos are great, but they are also at times very misleading as we all know. Nonsensical minutes of wasted time with street theatrics and music which means nothing. Sometimes I don’t know if I’m watching a terrible music video or a magic demo! Endless video shots of spectator reactions and NO full actual performance. There are times when I actually think magic video demos are a detriment rather than what they should be...a simple and HONEST performance of the effect with NO cuts. However, I do fully well realize that there are certain effects where this cannot be done due to backtracking and possible disclosure.

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On 2011-02-05 18:44, mike storz wrote:
Has anyone had first hand experience with this? If so, please pm me. I'm considering this but have some questions.

Mike Smile


I don’t have it but I imagine that it is based upon Nitinol titanium technology which to me makes it very impractical. There is a trick called “Elite Bending Coin” by Jay Crowe which uses this technology and seems to have fallen flat on its face. It has a whopping $300.00 price tag and not the greatest reviews. There are only a few reviews on it at Penguin magic and they are all bad.

I just happened to watch the demo video of The Perfect Nail Bend again and it occurred to me; just how many magicians perform at construction sites! “Oh look, we have a bunch of nails lying on the ground”. "Here, let’s use this one"! Smile
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Hello!
My name is Patrick.
I helped write the ad copy for this product. I just want to make a few things clear.
In other nail bending effects you would have to switch the Gimmicked nail in or out. You do NOT have to do that with this version. The nail bends in your (or your spectators) hand. The SAME nail can be handed out for examination. The nail does NOT bend and then straighten itself out. You receive 2 nails. One will bend, the other will straighten. As you can see in the ad copy they are listed as effect1 and effect 2. They are two different effects. This is a fantastic value at $60.00. This is a must have.!!

I hope this helps!
Patrick


Here is the official ad copy:

DESCRIPTION

Just a sample of the possible effects with Perfect Nail Bend Set...

Effect 1
Imagine, you show a normal metal nail. You prove it really is normal by having the spectator examine it. Then you ask the SPECTATOR to hold the nail at their finger tips. Next, you ask the spectator to concentrate on the nail. As they do, they see the nail start to bend in THEIR hand! Once the nail stops bending the spectator can examine it. There is NOTHING to find!!!
This is as close as it gets to REAL MAGIC!

Effect 2
Imagine, you show a nail that has been previously bent. You drop it on the table to prove that it is solid. Next, you ask the SPECTATOR to pick up the nail and hold it flat on their hand. The metal nail starts to bend until it is completely straight. The spectator can examine the nail, there is NOTHING to find. This is as close as it gets to REAL MAGIC!

• No Switching
• No Magnets
• No Extra Gimmicks
• No Electronics
• Nothing is used except for the nail itself.

Included:
(1) Gimmicked bent nail
(1) Gimmicked straight nail
(1) Setting tube
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It seems like a good deal at a very good price when compared to similar bending forks, keys and coins. I will be ordering it.
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On 2011-02-07 15:19, magicinsight wrote:

It seems like a good deal at a very good price when compared to similar bending forks, keys and coins. I will be ordering it.


I too agree.

However I am still awaiting clarification on the following (for me this is important) :-

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On 2011-02-02 20:57, Ustaad wrote:

First: Since there are two props (gimmick nails) involved in the effect, I do hope that the manufacturers have taken special care to ensure that both the gimmick nails have their bends at the same (almost) position and at the same angle. This is not so, as seen in the demo vid.


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Ustaad,

Comparing the two nails in the demo closely, it does appear that the bends are slightly different although that might be due to the camera angles. If they bends are slightly different the fact that the bent nail is dumped into the spectator's hand and is todl to close the hand so quickly, I do not think that a slight difference would be noticeable. But additional clarification would nevertheless be helpful.

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Wouldn't you just go ahead and play them as different nails? Have 12 or 13 of them in a box...bend one. Take 'one of your old ones that someone else bent' and have them unbend that. No problem.
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On 2011-02-07 23:48, Tom Jorgenson wrote:
Wouldn't you just go ahead and play them as different nails? Have 12 or 13 of them in a box...bend one. Take 'one of your old ones that someone else bent' and have them unbend that. No problem.


Good thinking and great suggestion! Thank you.

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Can someone please clarify are the nails freezing cold to the touch by the spectator ? Has the technology been improved over earlier bending effects. Thanks for any help Gary
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On 2011-02-07 23:48, Tom Jorgenson wrote:
Wouldn't you just go ahead and play them as different nails? Have 12 or 13 of them in a box...bend one. Take 'one of your old ones that someone else bent' and have them unbend that. No problem.


Good thinking and great suggestion! Thank you.

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Yeah that is great thinking Tom.....
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On 2011-02-08 14:36, nanaswan wrote:
Can someone please clarify are the nails freezing cold to the touch by the spectator ? Has the technology been improved over earlier bending effects. Thanks for any help Gary


In the add it says it comes with a ice pack and a case to carry them in. Yes I would say it is cold to the spectator. I have the key that is done in the same way I would think. I don't have this but I would think its done the same way. But still this would be a great effect for what you are paying for. The key cost me 250.00 for the same effect as this. This one you get two for only 60.00 bucks. Not bad at all. Even if it feels cold to someone there are ways around that or don't let them handle it until after the bend. Then its warm.
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I'll have to admit that it's not a bad price considering you get two nails. Awaiting further reviews as to how the nails look and it all works out. As for the nail possibly feeling cold there is nothing that says you have to have it in the spectators hand for the bend, and or the un-bend. As for the use of a glove as someone suggested that, to me, seems a tad extreme.
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On 2011-02-10 00:03, gaffed wrote:

* As for the nail possibly feeling cold . . . .


One needn't worry about the metal being COLD. All one need to do is, heed to my suggestion of making an Haunted Key by using the same technology used in "The Perfect Nail Bend" and Waala, you have a REAL Haunted (Ghost) Key.

Initially the Key is seen BENT and is ICE-COLD - - - The key spookily straightens in the hands of the spectator - - - The Key then revolves in the hands of the performer. That's it - you have proved your powers & control over the HAUNTED KEY & the SPIRIT that controls THE KEY. Smile

And for the numerous suggestions on the Haunted Key (for the patter/ storyline as well as performance tips/ ideas), please click on the Devil -----> Smile

And with that you have a complete & perfect bizarre magic act.

Any takers Smile Smile Smile

Back on topic please. Thank you! Smile

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P.S. Don’t forget to give me due credit for the idea. Smile Smile
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On 2011-02-10 00:03, gaffed wrote:
I'll have to admit that it's not a bad price considering you get two nails. Awaiting further reviews as to how the nails look and it all works out. As for the nail possibly feeling cold there is nothing that says you have to have it in the spectators hand for the bend, and or the un-bend. As for the use of a glove as someone suggested that, to me, seems a tad extreme.


that's what Iam saying. You don't have to have the spectators handle them. As far as what the nails look like? I don't think it would matter much. Nails allways look diff. Even if its the same color as the key or the coin. That color would look like a nail. 60 bucks for two would be a steel if its the same thing. But Iam with you on this. I would like to read some reviews 1st.
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I'm thinking of looking out for this at Blackpool next week.

I'll report back when I've seen it/bought it.


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Great! I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts Steve!
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On 2011-02-10 11:47, nowyoucme wrote: As far as what the nails look like? I don't think it would matter much. Nails allways look diff.


True enough. I was thinking of the Elite Bending Coin which looked horrible in the demo, and so it seems as did others who purchased it. Then again we are talking about a nail here which I don't think would be under as much scrutiny as a quarter. A nail can be shiny, dull or even a tad rusty looking. Still awaiting reviews from those who purchase it.
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Hey Guys,
Patrick here,
I am the Product Specialist for Murphy's Magic Supplies. The Perfect Nails Look just like any other nail you would see in a Home Depot. The quality is fantastic and so is the price. I was never a fan of the "memory metal" products of the past but this set is THE BEST I have ever seen.

I hope this helps
- Patrick
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Posted: Feb 11, 2011 5:31pm
I live in Phoenix and I am concerned about how the ambient temps in the Summer would affect the "effect." We get to 110 through much of the Summer here.

I realize you can carry the ice packs, etc. but curious how the hotter temps could potentially create an issue (or not) with this?
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South Texas the same. One reason I never got the bending k*y.
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I was sent the Bending Key from the gentleman in Europe who designed it. Without going into detail, if the nail is made from the same material, there is no need for ice packs. There IS a certain something you can use that won't make the material used "ice cold", however I'm not even sure if the designers are aware of the alternative or if the material is slightly different in which case it woudnst respond to the simple item that can be purchased at most stores and does not need to be kept cold and be kept in a pocket. I'm looking forward to hearing whether this effect uses the same material or a chemically altered material.
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