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On 2011-02-22 22:27, Dr. Magic wrote:
Steven Magic was THE leader in videos of NAME Magicians....then they blinked and A-1 became the leader ( actually L&L and A-1 were partners. L&L would do print ( books ) and A-1 videos ). But....they had a falling out and L&L came THE big dog.

Now, like in the adult film genre in the late 80's, individual producers have taken over ( because of easy access to video technology ).
You seem to be forgetting all the Tannen produced DVDs featuring the likes of Paul Harris, Derek Dingle, Frank Garcia and Eric DeCamps.
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Motown, I did forget to include those wonderful Tannen's videos ( now on DVD ).
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It's interesting to look back at those. The prices were at least $75 for VHS for both Tannen's & Stevens.

The Tannen videos were the Stars of Magic series and Stevens' was The Greater Magic series. One of the key differences was that Stevens' videos were broadcast quality (shot at the ABC affiliate in Wichita if I remember correctly) and had an audience.

L&L brought even more to the table with better production quality and lower prices.
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On 2011-02-20 19:04, Jean-Luc.R. wrote:
L&L is doing the things the old way.

You like it or not.

But the business has changed and not them.

Hope it is not too late!

Look at Big Blind Media ,Papercrane or RSVP .
Jean-Luc,

I would be interested to hear what things you consider to be the old way (L&L)
and what you consider to be the new way (Big Blind Media, Papercrane or RSVP).

I'm interested to hear peoples perspective on this.
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It seems the newer companies are doing live performances, on the street or in actual restaurant settings. No matter what the series is called, L&L does it in the same place, almost the same audience.

They hit the mark BIG time with the Doc Eason set in '98. I wish they had kept doing that.
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It seems that the real void in DVD publishing in general is with stage and parlor material. There is enough close-up on DVD to last a lifetime.
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I think many people want to see L&L do well. I think they want L&L to do well for the reason that I want them to do well and that reason is L&L was so important in helping me discover my love of magic. They were and still are so good. Forget the corny late 80's and 90's decor, the magic was amazing. For all we know they could be doing really well, taking a break and waiting to come out with a bunch of new stuff that will change the game again. I still believe that they are the most desirable company for pros to release stuff. I'm a fan, I hope they stick around for a while.
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On 2011-02-23 16:43, noble1 wrote:
It seems that the real void in DVD publishing in general is with stage and parlor material. There is enough close-up on DVD to last a lifetime.


L&L has certainly contributed there as well:

Fielding West
http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.php?m......_id=2055

Michael Finney
http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.php?m......_id=1951

Marc DeSouza
http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.php?m......_id=2639

The Pendragons
http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.php?m......_id=2574

WGM Torn & Restored Newspaper
http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.php?m......_id=2454

WGM Bill in Lemon
http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.php?m......_id=2389

WGM Professional Rope Routines
http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.php?m......_id=2293

WGM Professor's Nightmare
http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.php?m......_id=2663

WGM Stand-up Magic Volume 1
http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.php?m......_id=2401

WGM Stand-up Magic Volume 2
http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.php?m......_id=2402

WGM Stand-up Magic Volume 3
http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.php?m......_id=2403

WGM Linking Rings
http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.php?m......_id=2292

WGM Zombie Ball
http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.php?m......_id=2378

And that doesn't include all the mentalism DVDs. Those should keep you busy for a while!
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On 2011-02-23 15:02, Dr. Magic wrote:
It seems the newer companies are doing live performances, on the street or in actual restaurant settings. No matter what the series is called, L&L does it in the same place, almost the same audience.

They hit the mark BIG time with the Doc Eason set in '98. I wish they had kept doing that.
Yes, you're right. In some instances material is shown performed in a restaurant/bar situations. But, there are trade offs.
Lighting is one. Camera angles. Noise level from other patrons. Many times the explanations are also shot in the same establishment
in order to make the production more cost effective. This in many cases creates certain compromises.

The Sweden 21 DVD is a good example. On the second DVD of the set about 2 thirds of the material was performed and explained when
the restaurant was packedand the noise level at it's highest. I found this very distracting during the explanations.

There's good and bad to everything.

L&L may not do everything right, but I think they do most things right.
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On 2011-02-22 21:55, Steven Leung wrote:
When L&L has crazy sale even cheaper than the wholesale price in Murphy's Magic, how can brick and mortar magic shop sustain internet magic shopping?


Just my 2 cents.


That is a great point, the local shop in my old town doesn't buy new L&L unless it is requested, because the shop can't compete with the video company.
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This turned out to be a good topic. Thank you to all that participated. To end on this, all I want is to see L & L do well. I will probally see Jim Sisti at NEMCON in a couple weeks. He will know the situation I'm sure.

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Jim Sisti may know some but he won't know all and even if he did. Why would he go around helping to spread speculation as to what is or isn't going on with L&L? Even Louis F. probably wouldn't tell you everything even if he knew you well. If he did he would have to be sure you weren't going to go blabbing to everyone. Yes Jim Sisti is good friends with Louis. But don't expect him to spill his guts on what he may or may not know either.

Reread the posts of Domino Magic his posts are really all you need to know. L&L is going to be around for quite a while I'm sure.
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I grew up learning magic from the L&L, A-1 and Steven’s videos. It would be a shame to see them go out of business.

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Jeez guys! L&L isn't going out of business. If they were going out of business, they wouldn't be releasing new titles, which they still continue to do.
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