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On 2011-03-14 17:32, entermagic wrote:
In my opinion a demo video has only one purpose: To give a chance everyone to realize the secret. For this reason, many people don't create a demo video.
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I understand your thinking and in one way I guess I'd have to agree. However it can also do so much more I feel. It can show where hesitation, modulation and emphasisation can actually help the presentation greatly. It can show a magical moment, a eureka second or an Ahaa idea. I feel there's so much to learn from a video other than merely the method. And that means it can also help sales of course!
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Bobser - I agree wholeheartedly - but I'd be uncomfortable posting a dem-vid of this effect. I'll film myself rehearsing it tomorrow and see if my fears hold substance. I just have an uncomfortable feeling about it. It's a great effect, but it might not take an Einstein to reverse engineer it with todays video techology and that would be detrimental to sales in this instance.
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Another reason to take a chance on this effect is that Tommy has updated it three or four times since it has been released and he has incorporated a number of variations. Not each variation will suit each performer equally but there is a good chance you will find at least one that you can use. Even if this doesn't become your primary ACAAN method it really is tough to beat in a situation where you're looking for a hands-off impromptu FASDIU handling.
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--Theo Fraser's 5 minute review--
The review where Theo half heartedly comments on something five minutes after reading it, often skipping large chuncks of text because he got either got bored or distracted by shiney objects; and therefore a review that should never ever be taken seriously by any sane human being. Opinions and thoughts are subject to change.


What I like:
- Gimmickless
- Borrowed, Cold Deck
- Back turned away
- No touching the deck


What I dislike:
- Shuffling the cards (YO RUINED MY STACK BOAY!)
- The unnatural dealing
- The possability of a vast amount of boring dealing


I will probably change my opinion on this, but I think this may well be the ACAAN I use whenever I do not have my gimmicks with me. Its not as "natural" or visual as AOCAAN and several of the "moves" will have to be justified using patter; but this is the first hands off ACAAN that is impromptu which I can honestly say I would ever even consider performing. I think with plenty of time misdirection it would be very deceptive.
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Yes indeed and horses for course and all that. In fact, you've posted pretty much what I though after five minutes. AND I hadn't change my mind after an hour. You've really got to read the book, cards in hand and uninterupted for an hour or two to appreciate the true value of this. Picard points out that you can dismiss ONE of the labourious dealings in the Reverse Variant. I do too but by a different method.

Theo, judging by bthe way you look at things, it won't take you long to grasp this and 'do something' about the dealing scenario. It isn't a problemt really. It can be made used to your advantage! Lets face it - if you can spin out your AOCAAN for 6 minutes - you aint gonna be phazed by this mate!

Let us know tomorrow! Smile
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Subtle Scam is the biggest mistake done by Tommy. He gives away something with big worth for few dollars. I read a lot and if you want some decent ACAAN effect you need to spend over 30$. There are many posts about Subtle Scam, but inside the pdf there are many other good effect like Mind Scam or Duplicity (This is the cleanest effect that I have seen ever. It is like a double ACAAN: 2 cards, 2 numbers, the performer doesn't touch ever the deck and the cards will be at named number)
Only this effect worth the entire value of this pdf. Tommy, you are crazy Smile and thank you to share with us your wonderful routines.

-Antonio
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On 2011-03-14 20:03, Roger Kelly wrote:
Picard points out that you can dismiss ONE of the labourious dealings in the Reverse Variant.

True that, Roger.
And, as I pointed out in my original post, if you steer the spectator towards a higher number, you can considerably reduce the first instance of dealing with the original handling.

I also find a lot of occasions for interesting byplay with each spectator, and reminding everyone that I'm actually performing TWO tricks at once, and saying that two thought-of cards sometimes create some mental interference that I have to deal with...

Fun, fun stuff.
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Exactly Gorecki - never have two performances been the same. Duh! Of course they haven't - but you know what I mean. Smile
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I liked this a lot. In the right hands with proper working it's as good as anything out there.
Earlier this evening, either in this thread or another someone mentioned The Berglas Effect. There's no such thing. If you know what I'm talking about, great. if you don't, I can't tell you.
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Great to see Subtle Scam FINALLY getting the kudos it deserves.

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On 2011-03-16 17:34, bobser wrote:
In the right hands with proper working it's as good as anything out there.


Bobser - it should be the Specs hands - no?
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This morning, Tommy performed a variation of Subtle Scam for me -- over chat.
It was a LOT of fun. Smile

I don't know if he plans on publishing the material, but if he does, I suggest you keep an eye out for it!
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On 2011-03-17 11:46, Gorecki wrote:
This morning, Tommy performed a variation of Subtle Scam for me -- over chat.
It was a LOT of fun. Smile

I don't know if he plans on publishing the material, but if he does, I suggest you keep an eye out for it!


Via Webcam?

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Hi all,
Thank you very much for all your post, I am very glad to see that you like a lot my Subtle Smile

Just for clarification, because I received immediatly many mail.
I performed for Gorecki a variant of Subtle Scam showing him how you can perform it also on the chat (No webcam only text chat). The deck was in his hands I just instructed him to name a number and to think a card looking throught the deck.
He counted at his named number and his thought of card is there...

The effect was just a demo, the info about the effect are already inside pdf. Use the mind and I am sure you will find a similar method.

The method is not for sale and it is not a bonus, because everything is already inside the pdf.

Thank you again

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Did you know that Tommy had demos of his work?
http://www.youtube.com/user/Thommerfield#p/u/7/uu8zq0xi4to



"Impossible ACAAN"

http://vimeo.com/21223006
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On 2011-03-19 10:00, Amirá wrote:
Did you know that Tommy had demos of his work?
http://www.youtube.com/user/Thommerfield#p/u/7/uu8zq0xi4to



"Impossible ACAAN"

http://vimeo.com/21223006
pass:tommy



The audio is too low.

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On 2011-03-19 10:00, Amirá wrote:
Did you know that Tommy had demos of his work?
http://www.youtube.com/user/Thommerfield#p/u/7/uu8zq0xi4to



"Impossible ACAAN"

http://vimeo.com/21223006
pass:tommy



The audio is too low.

MP


Use headphones.
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This morning, Tommy performed a variation of Subtle Scam for me -- over chat.
It was a LOT of fun.

I don't know if he plans on publishing the material, but if he does, I suggest you keep an eye out for it!



He performed this one also for me.
The is really good. I didn't see ever something like that over chat.

Great job again.

-Antonio
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They say never work with children or animals.

I think I should add aged parents to that list. I performed this to my dear old Mother the other day and after carefully and slowly explaining what was required, I eventually asked, "Okay, now name a card..."

"Forty-seven" was the reply.

I knew it was going to be a long night.
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On 2011-03-20 07:00, Roger Kelly wrote:
They say never work with children or animals.

I think I should add aged parents to that list. I performed this to my dear old Mother the other day and after carefully and slowly explaining what was required, I eventually asked, "Okay, now name a card..."

"Forty-seven" was the reply.

I knew it was going to be a long night.



This is hilarious, Roger. Smile
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