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lukecloughmagic
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I've been contemplating getting a chop cup but last year saw axel hecklau perform his 'not a chop cup' routine.

Opinions on which is more entertaining? I personally found axels version awesome, but haven't looked into a chop cup routine too much yet.
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I'm not going to tell you that this is a ridiculous question. I don't think I need to.

Instead, I'm going to give you a parallel.

Which is more musical -- a man playing a Selmer saxophone or a man playing a Conn saxophone?

Do you understand?

Here's the answer.

It's not the routine. It's the performer.

No matter who you are, you cannot possibly perform Axel Hecklau's routine like he can, because you aren't him.

No matter who you are, you cannot possibly perform Don Alan's routine like Don Alan, because you aren't Don Alan.

However, if you are entertaining, your routine will be entertaining.

Do you understand?

Find a video of Paul Daniels doing the chop cup.
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Ok, maybe I worded the question wrong..... it was more the concept I was wondering about..... the fact that axels isn't really a chop cup, so was wondering if anyone had any insight on to which they preferred, I appreciate that the performer is what sells any trick, not just the chop cup
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It doesn't make any difference, really. Here's the deal. The cup you get from Axel is an ordinary dice cup that you can pick up in any train station in Germany for about € 2.00. There is another gimmick used. You still have to handle the gimmick. A better choice, IMHO, is the Kaffee Wette from Jedinat. It sells for about € 20, and can be used with ANY cup, including a coffee mug. It's much easier to work with. Even though the instructions are in German, the working is basically obvious, once you see it.

I have both. In fact, I venture to say that I have more chop cups than anyone else, period. I still prefer a normal chop cup. The one I work with most often is a leather cup that was put out by Harry Stanley back in the 1960's. Supreme sold some as well.

If you want to get an idea of what has been produced for chop cups and other similar items, including the cups and balls, visit my web site, http://www.cupsandballsmuseum.com .

You will need to e-mail me at curator@cupsandballsmuseum.com for a username and password.

When you visit the site, bring a lunch and a beverage. There are more than 1750 cups to look at. Of those, more than 350 are chop cups and related items.
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I think I'll have a look at the Jedinat Kaffee Wette.... I have the exact cup that a frined found in a toy shop, and I also picked up a magnetic dice from Blackpool, so its just the extra gimmick I need, thanks for the input
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Be sure to visit my web site. You may see other treasures there that you really like.
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But sadly, you don't want to part with any Smile
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Once in a while something escapes, but you are right. My collection is like a roach motel for cups and balls -- cups and balls check in, but they don't check out!
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Well if you ever feel a breakout being carefully planned out, let me know!
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On 2011-03-07 14:15, Bill Palmer wrote:
It doesn't make any difference, really. Here's the deal. The cup you get from Axel is an ordinary dice cup that you can pick up in any train station in Germany for about € 2.00. There is another gimmick used. You still have to handle the gimmick. A better choice, IMHO, is the Kaffee Wette from Jedinat. It sells for about € 20, and can be used with ANY cup, including a coffee mug. It's much easier to work with. Even though the instructions are in German, the working is basically obvious, once you see it.

I have both. In fact, I venture to say that I have more chop cups than anyone else, period. I still prefer a normal chop cup. The one I work with most often is a leather cup that was put out by Harry Stanley back in the 1960's. Supreme sold some as well.

If you want to get an idea of what has been produced for chop cups and other similar items, including the cups and balls, visit my web site, http://www.cupsandballsmuseum.com .

You will need to e-mail me at curator@cupsandballsmuseum.com for a username and password.

When you visit the site, bring a lunch and a beverage. There are more than 1750 cups to look at. Of those, more than 350 are chop cups and related items.

The Kaffee Wette from Jedinat looks awesome
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The main thing is that it WORKS! So does Axel's. But I think he is much more proud of it than he really needs to be.
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Hello Bill,

you are right - I am pround of my routine because it´s a real worker (for the real world). And if you look closely to the Kaffeewette you will find many smal disadvanages.

@ lukecloughmagic
I seached the world for a special die. Where dit you got it in Blackpool - can you please tell me? It´s very interesting - Please PM it to me

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