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I figure this would be the best place to ask about it.

I'm looking for some more info on this, which is very commonly mislabeled (at least on the internet) as "The Scavenger's Daughter". I'm aware that it's actually a prisoner transport restraint, but does anyone know if it had a proper name? Also, if someone might know some specific dimensions (overall length, etc.) it would be appreciated. Thanks!
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If nobody knows here, try asking over here: http://www.network54.com/Forum/261154/
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The Scavenger's Daughter, originally called "Skeffington's Daughter," after its inventor, the Earl of Skeffington, Was not for transport. It was a torture restraint used in the Tower of London, where it can still be viewed.
Fetters marketed a copy of it as "The Cravat."
The device is also called "The Stork."
From collar section to ankle shackles, it was about 2-3' long.
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Some graphic links:

http://www.occasionalhell.com/infdevice/......Daughter

http://www.prawo.univ.gda.pl/karne/karne/bocian.htm

And I stand corrected on the transport aspect. Smile
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Steve, thanks- that's exactly what I needed. It just might be there's two devices that are referred to by the name "Scavenger's Daughter", but The Stork seems to be the best match for the restraint. (The other version's a torture device- a band that compressed the abdomen, ribcage, and spine.) I wonder why the two seem to be so mixed up. Maybe a museum curator mislabelled something... sounds like something interesting for me to research.
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My favorite pet peeve is those who call a gibbet cage (aka gibbet irons) an "iron maiden." Smile
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What a great site, Steve! A true feast for the imagination!
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On 2011-03-22 19:08, Steve_Mollett wrote:
My favorite pet peeve is those who call a gibbet cage (aka gibbet irons) an "iron maiden." Smile
Joke's on them anyway- the iron maiden probably isn't even real- it was in all likelihood pieced together by a curator with a bent for the sensational to get more customers into his museum.
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On 2011-03-22 19:01, EsnRedshirt wrote:
The other version's a torture device- a band that compressed the abdomen, ribcage, and spine. I wonder why the two seem to be so mixed up.


Possibly because this device, according to one of the sites Steve listed, " also caused painful cramping - most often in the abdomen and rectum."

Although it seems this was an accidental advantage(!?) of the restraint it does seem to be a common link that could be responsible for the confusion between the two devices.
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On 2011-03-22 19:08, Steve_Mollett wrote:
My favorite pet peeve is those who call a gibbet cage (aka gibbet irons) an "iron maiden." Smile
Joke's on them anyway- the iron maiden probably isn't even real- it was in all likelihood pieced together by a curator with a bent for the sensational to get more customers into his museum.


Yes, the "Eiserne Jungfrau" was a tourist-bait hoax to draw gawkers to the Royal Castle of Nuremberg. The original was 'frankensteined' from an iron cloak restraint (drunkard's cloak variant) from Czechoslovakia.
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By the way, thought you guys would be interested- I'm now halfway finished with a replica Skeffington's Daughter. It's a good exercise to help me figure out some basic metal working with my new tools, and it'll look great amongst the props next Halloween...

I'll post a few pictures when I've got time and as the project progresses.
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All done except for polishing up the metal and cutting down, then drilling bolt holes in the leg bar.

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That looks cool!
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Nicely done.
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Really Beautiful, nice workmanship. Was such a device really used at some point?
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On 2011-03-22 19:01, EsnRedshirt wrote:
Steve, thanks- that's exactly what I needed


what you needed the link to the fetters site?
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On 2011-04-19 09:51, Cliffg37 wrote:
Really Beautiful, nice workmanship. Was such a device really used at some point?


Yes, in the Tower of London. It got plenty of use during the reign of Elizabeth 1.
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