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On 2011-04-11 12:09, Bill Palmer wrote:
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On 2011-03-28 08:47, funsway wrote:
Aldo has a complete set for $10, and a DVD for the reading impaired.

Both are excellent but use a cardboard cone --after all, wasn't the original a Thread Spool?


That depends on what you consider the original. Those conical cardboard thread spools aren't really as good as a leather cone. The thickness of the cardboard actually interferes with the moves.


Now I stumble across this post, after I just "won" a couple of the cardboard cones on the big auction site! Oh well, less than three bucks with shipping. Where have all the old hippie leather crafters gone now that I really need one?
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I think there are at least two people making leather cones. Frank Starsini is one of them. George Millward is another.
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Found a Ball and Cone from East Coast Magic for only $42.50 plus postage. Looks like it may have come from Mak Magic, but for a complete outfit that is a great price. I emailed the store and it comes with 2" balls. See picture below.
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As for paper cones, I have gotten paper mache cones from this site:
http://www.thecraftshoppe.com/papermache.html

I purchased the 7"x3" cone and just today received the 9.5" Fiberboard cone. They give fast service and both orders were under $5 each.

The paper mache is a stiff chipboard material, about 1/16" thick, the Fiberboard is almost an 1/8" thick. I bought the Fiberboard because when I cut the top on the chipboard so the ball can set on top, it got a little short looking.
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If any of you are interested I started a topic on this subject in stage manipulation section of the Café here: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......art=0#15

It seems that this was originally published in "The Dai Vernon Book of Magic" as a close-up trick, even though it was never performed in public as such a trick. Dai Vernon did lecture in the 1950's on this subject from his lecture notes of that time, but I find presentation of most lectures are not really close-up demonstrations. Do to the open left angle side of the trick, I do not see how this could really be considered a close-up trick in the full sense of the word. Vernon's notes are just that, an outline of the effect. Ganson does not go into the use of the effect as a close-up trick in the book.

Having said that, it may be a "retension of vision" vanish from that side if the move is expertly executed.

If someone has mastered this effect, it would be good to hear your experiences performing this excellent effect in a close-up environment. Anyone!!

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On 2011-05-05 14:25, wmhegbli wrote:
If someone has mastered this effect, it would be good to hear your experiences performing this excellent effect in a close-up environment. Anyone!!

Nooooo, not yet. This one will take a while.
Good to see you're so excited about this.
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If you're looking for the George Millward DVD on Ball and Cone, try Denny's. I've seen it on his site. Very pretty routine....
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