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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2011-04-26 15:03, Payne wrote: Putting it behind 17 movies and ahead of another hundred or so. http://www.the-numbers.com/charts/thisweek.php Granted, most of the movies behind it (but not all) have been out longer. On the other hand, most of the movies ahead of it have bigger studios and/or name actors. Maybe we could have a "Movie Czar" added to the executive branch of the government, and he could collect money from the five movies that did the best and distribute it to all the other movies, to make things more fair.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On 2011-04-26 17:52, LobowolfXXX wrote: No matter how one might try to otherwise sugarcoat it (not saying you are, but in general) I think it would be a stretch to describe Atlas Shrugged as any sort of box office smash or success. By any reasonable measure I can think of, it underwhelmed. I won't discount the DVD market. I believe videotape and DVD rentals / sales made Bladerunner a cult hit, and what gave Family Guy a second life. But personally I doubt it will much impact on Atlas Shrugged.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
Which is no surprise; it was a low budget movie without a name star. Like most movies, it will probably lose money. And?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On 2011-04-26 23:52, LobowolfXXX wrote: And? Refer to the OP. We have our answer.
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2011-04-26 15:03, Payne wrote: With respect to the Post piece, btw, it's a joke and a half to suggest that comparisons to The Conspirator somehow make Atlas Shrugged's showing worse. With Redford directing and a host of known actors appearing (Oscar winner Kevin Kline, 2-time Oscar nominee Tom Wilkinson, Robin Wright, Justin Long, Evan Rachel Wood...) and a budget around $10 million more, The "left leaning" Conspirator has managed to make almost $4 million more. Well, stop the presses.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Tom Bartlett Special user Our southern border could use 763 Posts |
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On 2011-04-27 02:06, LobowolfXXX wrote: Some people here do not like it when someone puts things into proper perspective, like you did, but I'm not one of them. I enjoy reading what people like yourself have to say, yes the ones that actually use their brains, instead of those who just keep parroting the thoughts of others that they read in their favorite biased publications or programs.
Our friends don't have to agree with me about everything and some that I hold very dear don't have to agree about anything, except where we are going to meet them for dinner.
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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts |
Looks like the producer who just wasted 18 years of his life and 20 million dollars of his own money on this turkey is considering throwing in the towel on the sequels and perhaps making a movie about poker as his next cinematic venture.
http://www.avclub.com/articles/atlas-shr......r,55181/ Sounds like we might have a libertarian Ed Woods on our hands here. He has succeeded in proving that old adage. How does one make a small fortune in the movie industry? Start with a much larger fortune Funny that the conservative keep trying to tell everyone that this country leans to the right. If that's the case why is it that the few Conservative movies that managed to get made usually lose tons of money cause no one wants to see them?
"America's Foremost Satirical Magician" -- Jeff McBride.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
Both sides think the country leans their way, and both sides are wrong. On some issues, the country is mostly liberal; on others, it's mostly conservative. The country leans to the center.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
As for the movies with conservative viewpoints losing money, conservatives don't need movies to validate their political philosophies; they have talk radio.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2....../page/1/
"EXCLUSIVE: Twelve days after opening "Atlas Shrugged: Part 1," the producer of the Ayn Rand adaptation said Tuesday that he is reconsidering his plans to make Parts 2 and 3 because of scathing reviews and flagging box office returns for the film." WAIT! What? How can this be? Just yesterday, Foxnews declared Atlas Shrugged, Part 1, a surprise financial success, and observed that Hollywood was (apparently) kicking itself that it let this one get away. http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/201......g-movie/ "Atlas Shrugged Part 1, an independently produced movie based on the 1957 book extolling the virtues of unbridled capitalism, was a surprise financial success its opening weekend, forcing some Hollywood bigwigs to reflect on why they chose to pass on a project based on a book more than 7 million people have read ... The fact that the movie has exceeded box office expectations has some in Hollywood disappointed that they let the opportunity pass them by."
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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On 2011-04-28 02:17, LobowolfXXX wrote: I don't think so. I'm thinking more and more, that his country is deeply, deeply divided but I'm not sure which side has greater numbers. I don't think there is much of a center, whatever that may be, except by definition. The "bi-partisanship" that some people like to tout really has nothing to do with centrism. The Dem/Repuub scale is a very compressed scale that tells us little of people's true feelings.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
"Center" in the sense of equilibrium, as opposed to actually having "moderate" views. I'm not touting bi-partisanship in the sense of any sort of compromise or centrism; I'm saying that if you talk about abortion, most Americans are liberal, while if you talk about capital punishment, most Americans are conservative. And so on.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On 2011-04-28 03:18, LobowolfXXX wrote: Fortunately, two political parties are sufficient to represent all possible combinations of opinions on the many issues of concern to U.S. voters. :)
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts |
I'd love to have viable 3rd and 4th party choices- but our voting system isn't set up to deal with them. We should switch to a ranked choice system so that voting 3rd party isn't risking throwing your vote away.
But that would mean a risk of the two main parties losing some power, so it'll never happen (at least not on a national scale.)
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HerbLarry Special user Poof! 731 Posts |
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On 2011-04-28 10:01, EsnRedshirt wrote: There is no throwing your vote away. The two main Parties lose power when people don't vote for them. If the person gets more votes they win, doesn't matter if they are with the What'chu-Talkin'-About-Willis? Party, the Birthday Party, or the two front runners Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber Parties.
You know why don't act naive.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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On 2011-04-28 10:10, HerbLarry wrote: Hey HerbLarry, first time agreement here!
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
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...If the person gets more votes they win... I call bull.
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts |
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On 2011-04-28 10:10, HerbLarry wrote: Your second sentence and third sentence contradict each other. We've got a "winner takes all" political system. My point is if we're voting for the President of Dessert, and I really like, oh, say, the Ice Cream Sundae Party candidate, feel favorable towards the Apple Pie Party candidate, but actively hate the Brussel Sprouts Party candidate, who's vowed to put brussel sprouts on everyone's plate (whether they like it or not,) who am I going to vote for? I know about 60% of people prefer both the ICSP and the APP to the BSP, but 35% of people are rabid anti-dessertarians, who are going to vote for the BSP- in other words we're going in to an election where the ICSP and the APP both have around a 60% approval rating, and the BSP has only a 35% approval rating... but remember this is winner-take-all. The dessertarians split their vote between their two favored parties, so the ICSP and APP both get 30% of the vote. 5% vote for the Bubble Gum Party candidate (what were they thinking?) and guess what? We're all sitting down to great big bowls of brussel sprouts, because the least favorite party somehow managed to get the most votes. Compare that to ranked choice or instant run-off voting: In ranked choice, I'd vote for the ICSP, then mark the APP as second choice, and Bubble Gum Party as third. The results are announced, and, with ranked calculations, the Brussel Sprouts Party and Bubble Gum party are dropped from the ballot, and we have a run-off between the Ice Cream Sundae Party and the Apple Pie Party. In instant run off, the votes are totaled up, the bubble-gum party candidate, having the lowest total, is dropped, and the second choice candidate on those ballots gets those votes (which split 3-2 between the ice cream sundae party and the apple pie party.) At this point, the totals are 33% ICSP, 32% APP, and 35% BSP... so the APP candidate is dropped, and, wow- 90% of his supporters would rather have ice cream instead of brussel sprouts. Add those votes to the candidates, and the result is 62% ICSP versus 38% BSP. So while the Apple Pie candidates don't get their first choice, they do get a candidate they can live with, and nobody is forced to eat brussel sprouts for dessert.
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
The person who gets more electoral votes wins. The vote of the people means nothing in a Federal election.
Your vote only counts when it comes to local issues like flouridated water and bicycle helmets.
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HerbLarry Special user Poof! 731 Posts |
Yeah, and people vote for the Electors too!
I'd also add that nothing is a bit strong. Let the people vote for A 95% and B gets in and see what happens.
You know why don't act naive.
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