On 2011-03-31 00:34, brian314 wrote:
Is the JW grip mentioned anywhere in Bobo?

On 2011-03-30 14:34, Mb217 wrote:
Stick with the graciousness of Ben Salinas here as to his Modern Coin Magic 4-DVD set, it's great. That and the Bobo and Hay books mentioned by Hare should take you for miles and miles. I'm not a big gaff guy but they can be fun and offer some trap doors to some amazing magic but take my advice and learn the sleights well first and foremost, then mix & match regular coins with gaff stuff and you'll have all you need and then some. When you get through playing a bit, pick yourselr out 4-5 effects you like and work on perfecting them until you can do it in your sleep and just do those for specsa and that will be all yo need. Just be very good at a few effects and you'll be pretty good at this stuff and save yourself a lot of headache and cash.

in general, SICK is a wonderful DVD but definitely a few floors up for you at this point.
It's nice to work at and be inspired by but the real work is work, really and then some.

You have some good hardware already, you can do tons of stuff with that. I can do a lot of effects but usually only do 3-4 of them tops, the few I like doing the most. They are always more than enough to amaze anywhere, anytime. I can admire but I don't chase every sparkle, evry cute trinket any more, so glad I've gotten to that point, it is a point of higher perspective as to this & that, along with realizing what I have in my own backpocket already. Enjoy the journey.

Oh, and Welcome to the Café FEZ.

On 2011-03-30 14:44, BarryTX wrote:
Fez,

As another coin student, let me make a recommendation that may save you some money. Look carefully for used copies of the books and DVDs you want for your collection. By hunting all the usual places, like ebay, Amazon used book sellers, etc., I found a number of the recommended books at a fraction of the new or even 'normal used' cost. My hardback Bobo and Hay books were found this way. I even found a like brand-new first edition of David Roth's Expert Coin Magic being sold at the same price as newer used editions - that is my home run I guess.

One thing I won't do is buy any bootlegged items - which are usually identifiable by the price and location. But I have picked up several good used magic DVDs that I wanted by hunting a bit. And of course, if I didn't find it after a reasonable search, I bought it new, the Ben Salinas Modern Coin Magic DVDs as an example.

Also be sure to check out Vinny Marini's site at vinnymarini.com. He has some great downloads available from some great coin magicians who are active here on the Café, and they are bargain learning tools. Vinny, Tim Feher, Marion Boykin and others have been extremely generous with help and encouragement.

Anyway, you can spend a fortune on reference materials and while it is all worth it, if I can limit it to a small fortune rather than a big one that leaves more to spend on....coins and gaffs!

On 2011-03-30 22:51, whiteoakcanyon wrote:
In response to your earlier question, I would highly recommend Metal as a good general coin DVD by Eric Jones. Bobo's is an amazing resource and one you will often refer to. Good luck and enjoy.

On 2011-03-31 02:15, mavericklancer wrote:

Do yourself a favor and head on over to lybrary.com and pick up Curtis Kam's Pocketbook. It's a great guide filled with advice on what sleights to learn (and where to learn them), as well as how you should approach the classics like Bobo's and Expert Coin Magic. There's advice on muscle passing, palming, and just about anything you'd really want to know about. It's the most useful book on coins I've picked up... honestly, more so than Bobo's itself.

On 2011-03-31 09:48, sal wrote:

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On 2011-03-30 11:16, BenSalinas wrote:
Fez,
Send me your address in a PM and I'll shoot a signed copy of Modern Coin Magic to you.

Ben,
Wow what a great thing to do!! Shows a lot -- I have the set and love it

On 2011-03-31 10:38, boydy wrote:
I have learned plenty of effects and as I do this as a past time and not a job I always go back to three plots:

My version of shell coins across by Roth. I have changed the way I make the second coin travel.

Lattas Fisted Copper silver

and a wild coin routine. I know many so whatever one takes my fancy.

These are the ones I do all the time. And maybe a coins through table.

Think about what you want to do and then do it until it is second nature.

On 2011-04-03 19:01, Lawrence O wrote:
I wish to congratulate Ben Salinas for his generous offer of a very impressive work.

I'm surprised not to see Richard Kaufman's Coin Magic and David Roth Expert Coin Magic in any of the posts.

Mike Rubinstein's Encyclopedia of Coin Sleights is an exceptional reference for magicians concerned with moves adapted to the situations they reach at a given time.

The series of the New York Coin Magic Seminar will, in my opinion go down in history.

Curtis Kam's Palms of Steel, Fists of Fury ... series also deserve to be put forward.

... because, after these, there is still a lot to discover!

On 2011-04-13 17:21, BanzaiMagic wrote:
OK Fez,

Now it seems you have become somewhat of a community project here on the Café.

Go learn young man! And post some videos when you feel somewhat competent.

Oh, a bit of advice ... It is fun to learn a wide variety of tricks, but IMHO it is far better to get really good at just a few. Go find what works best for your style of magic.

Regards

Alan