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Looks really great. Would be very interested in a project of yours.
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Another top stock control demo:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9FBhsmow0y/
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It's incredible, Joey. Do us a favor and start a "52" project of your own, please!
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Very good indeed. Thank you.
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Excellent Joey!
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Clever and cute Joey
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Thank you guys! Soon this thread will be nine years old, time flies by! Thank you to all past and present posters in this thread. The advice has certainly greatly affected the way I handle cards.

@Cag:
Thank you for you contributions in this thread. Your comments about using plastic cards has led to me integrating plastics in my practice. I belive my overall handling has improved quite a bit because of that.
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@JFX: Happy to hear you have incorporated plastics and that you felt it has improved your handling of the tickets.

You are fortunate, you appear to have what I call "The Hands." While everyone has a pair of hands, very few have what I call "The Hands." Forte has the hands, a few other demonstrators, very few, have the hands. In my younger years, while practicing and studying classical piano 4 to 6 hours per day, in addition to card manipulation, I had the hands back then.

It is something you have or you don't have...you are born with these type hands. You can't learn to have the hands or develop them. You either have them or you don't. It is why, while some can become very good at card manipulation, or playing the piano, violin, etc. only a tiny number of practitioners become truly superb. The rest fall into various categories, i.e. inept, sloppy, fair, middling, good, very good and perhaps very, very good, but not quite superb.

This definition is not really quantifiable, it is more in the province of art. It is intuitive or subjective. But when you see it with card manipulation, or hear it in music, if you are perceptive, or in some cases even if you are not, you know "that's it!" "That's different." You may not know why that's it. You just know or perhaps feel it. What you are seeing or hearing is a little above, it's different, from what everyone else is doing.

So Joey, you have great hands and you closely mimic Forte, who is the very best of role models at this type endeavor. While I could be wrong on this, your repertoire does not appear to be extensive, probably by design. However, if you continue to grow and expand over time, you are very close to becoming superb.

Very, very good card work.

As a caveat, handling cards superbly well or even very good for demonstrations is a complete 100% no-no under fire. For those who have an urge to move under fire, PLEASE don't confuse the two types of card handling. You could get hurt by doing so.
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Thank you @Cag

Here are a few clips of moves that are taught in GSOH or that are easily derived from the material that is presented in Vol. 1.

The F-strip is taught in the book. Here is a version of the F-strip that is not in the book but that is easily derived from the explanation:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-WIc5FIJ8M/

Here is the I-strip taught in the book:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-jsa3qHJG_/

Here is a shuffle sequence that utilizes and combines different moves from the book:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-mcZ2dng-4/

This one is a shuffle sequence that is derived from the "Forte Favorites":
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_HsQoeH8BK/

Finally, here is a full deck false shuffle. I considered this to be my own "invention" for some time. However, after reading the book I realized that the main concept is not all that new. So if you read Vol. 1 you can easily piece it together. Nevertheless, this one is my favorite way to retain the entire deck:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_KmwUsAe_s/
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A few moves from GSOH Vol. 1:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CB7e8XwIKI3/
(Erdnase false strips - Delaying the strip)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CB7-ZfDIagc/
(Transfers & riffle stacking - Top-to-bottom reverse stack)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CB-GZy8oTZv/
(One-handed seconds - Table-brush second)
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As usual very pretty and dazzling demo work as well as a standard for other hobbyists to emulate.
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On Feb 29, 2020, Cagliostro wrote:
@JFX: Happy to hear you have incorporated plastics and that you felt it has improved your handling of the tickets.

You are fortunate, you appear to have what I call "The Hands." While everyone has a pair of hands, very few have what I call "The Hands." Forte has the hands, a few other demonstrators, very few, have the hands. In my younger years, while practicing and studying classical piano 4 to 6 hours per day, in addition to card manipulation, I had the hands back then.

It is something you have or you don't have...you are born with these type hands. You can't learn to have the hands or develop them. You either have them or you don't. It is why, while some can become very good at card manipulation, or playing the piano, violin, etc. only a tiny number of practitioners become truly superb. The rest fall into various categories, i.e. inept, sloppy, fair, middling, good, very good and perhaps very, very good, but not quite superb.

This definition is not really quantifiable, it is more in the province of art. It is intuitive or subjective. But when you see it with card manipulation, or hear it in music, if you are perceptive, or in some cases even if you are not, you know "that's it!" "That's different." You may not know why that's it. You just know or perhaps feel it. What you are seeing or hearing is a little above, it's different, from what everyone else is doing.

So Joey, you have great hands and you closely mimic Forte, who is the very best of role models at this type endeavor. While I could be wrong on this, your repertoire does not appear to be extensive, probably by design. However, if you continue to grow and expand over time, you are very close to becoming superb.

Very, very good card work.

As a caveat, handling cards superbly well or even very good for demonstrations is a complete 100% no-no under fire. For those who have an urge to move under fire, PLEASE don't confuse the two types of card handling. You could get hurt by doing so.


This struck home to me and I can totally relate. I was a drummer/percussionist for years and I used to call it the flow. A few examples, good percussionist rarely need to snap or jerk to reach unless the time constraints are very tight. They are moving way ahead with their free hand/limb even if they don't need to make contact for a few beats. They also have good follow through weather it be upward or downward movement. They rarely "bury" a stick or beater into a drum unless it's intentional for a desired sound. None of it is conscious. It's just the way a good drummer moves in my opinion.

I probably sound like a lunatic but you can see it from across the room. Like you said, you either have it or you don't.
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On Jul 11, 2020, tommy wrote:
Perhaps not:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26384712


It's really an interesting read, despite not answering the debate (I wasn't foolish enough to believe that in the first place). However, I don't agree with the idea of total talent to be honest, or being a natural. Gosh, I used to struggle relentlessly for years before being called a natural. Good, consistent, quality work is more than enough
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I think if one studies and puts into practice what one knows every day then one gradually gets good at any game. Success is more down to hard work I think. However, I also think some people are gifted; not all people are equal, so to speak. Also, I have known a couple of gifted fellows who wasted the gift; they preferred to have a good time than work.
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For sure, some people are more talented than others at working hard Smile
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On Feb 29, 2020, Cagliostro wrote:
@JFX: Happy to hear you have incorporated plastics and that you felt it has improved your handling of the tickets.

You are fortunate, you appear to have what I call "The Hands." While everyone has a pair of hands, very few have what I call "The Hands." Forte has the hands, a few other demonstrators, very few, have the hands. In my younger years, while practicing and studying classical piano 4 to 6 hours per day, in addition to card manipulation, I had the hands back then.




yep, I agree. I have only seen that kind of...natural work from SF, Mr Z and Joey. A lot of the other stuff, there is too much lifting of things, not..smooth, to obvious when someone is stacking or just doing a move in general. Some of the stuff that gets posted in the GSOH group on FB is just.....yeah. Not smooth or what I would call "clean"
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