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aznviet6uy
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Well there comes a time in a magician's life when he gets asked to perform, i felt that this is the best place to post this because i wanted some pointers on kid shows, on Aug. 20th will be the first time im doing a paid show for kids. Heck! and here i am TOTALY CLUELESS!!! what should i do? what are good tricks? patter? anything!!! can anyone help? lolz thanks abunch in advanced

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You have 12 days. that's just not enough. It took me over 2 monthes of purchasing effects, getting patter for them and getting them so they are perfect. It is almost impossible in 12 days to purchase, learn patter, and practice and put together a good show. This is just my opnion, but turn down the show because it just cant be done in 12 days. But be ready for when another person asks you im sure you'll love performing for kids. Is there anyone that thinks it can be done in 12 days?
If a magician is not intending to "trick" a spectator, why is every "trick" called a magic "trick"?
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If you have performed for unpaid shows before no problem. But if this is your first show ever, I would give it to some other magician as JSMagic described. An amateur magician won't look good in 12 days, (unless a professional magician helped you practice the right ones). If you come out bad, it will be something you will regret.

1) Have you performed before?
2) You are looking to spend no more than how much?
3) Do you have a family you can practice in front of?
4) Do you live near a magic shop?
5) What size and age of the crowd you are looking to perform for?
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I tend to agree with Mike and that you really do not want to force yourself to perform if you are not ready yet. tricks need to be bought, rehearsed and patter written. Then one must devote a lot of practice time to get comfortable with what is going on in the performance.
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The words 'Cart before the horse springs to mind'.

Why did you take a paying job without having an act to sell? It's not fair on the kids or the booker if your show is not up to standard due to being put together in a hurry. Especially as you've never done it before.

The best thing is to turn it down, research and buy some tricks, build up your act, then do a couple of freebies for a childrens charity etc to iron out the creases and gain confidence, Then if you feel it's something you have a talent for go out and look for paying work.
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This is really a pet peeve of mine.

Why do people take on a show when they aren't ready?

We all have our first paid gig, and yes they are nerve racking, but you should have a show to offer them!

Your first paying gig can be your most important. It is true what they say..you never get a second chance to make a first impression.

Most of your gigs will come through word of mouth, and if you come off bad, believe me , word will spread!

I don't want to sound mean, but people get this idea that because it's a kids show, you can just wing it...trust me..kids can be the TOUGHEST audience as well as the most fun.
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Hang on!!!!
Let's not all be to quick to judge here. Chris has written 4 lines so we don't know too much about him or the circumstances as to why he was asked to perform a kids show.
However, Chris - you have left things a bit tight!!! Have you got no kid show resources at all? No books or videos? Some well known tricks can easily be converted into a child friendly format. Cards across and professors nightmare spring to mind. Sponge balls can be performed for older children in the right environment. You don't have to baffle kids - but they do want to be entertained. Gags and funny bits of business can go a long way. I would also recommend Mark Leveridge's Magic Party book and video.
Good Luck!!!
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aznviet6uy, you realy didn't give us much to work with. As stated before, how much experience do you have? I don't want to dump on you, but there have been too many people posting this same kind of question with the unstated thought that since it's "just" a kids show it shouldn't be too difficult. Ha! My favorite quote is, "Performing magic for children is like going on a lion safari in a meatloaf suit."

Here is an earlier thread on the same topic. It may give you some of the answers you seek.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=17

BTW, what the heck does "aznviet6uy" mean?
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yes i have performed, only this is the first time i actually get paid, i ususally do this for charities and other events like that. Ive also been into magic since i was 8 but the problem is, this is the first time doing it for kids, im not sure what to expect, because the magic i usualy do im afraid kids wont get or understand. So im just wondering if it really is different for kids. I was asked because i was workin at a restuarant and on my break i was just fumbling with cards, now everyone that comes into the restuarant knows i do magic, well alot of people have asked me to perform for them but most of the time i turned it down, thinking i wasn't ready for the job, so this time i just said HECK! ill give it a try, and that's how i got involved. thanks alot by the way.

Tate, azn=asian viet=vietnamese 6uy=guy =)
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Well Chris sorry to say performing for kids is a whole different world then performing for people in a resteurant. Your only 11 days away...I'd say almost all effects you perform in a restaurant are useless to a childrens birthday party. (Course I don't know what you perform) - You need effects like PB& J, Vanishing Bandanna, Coloring Book and that's just the bewginning. You CANT DO (shouldnt do) any card tricks, and i have not had any success with coins. More people who reply will be of more specific help but while you have the chance 11 days away, turn it down as I said before you are now one day closer and don't have anything that would suit a child (Im basing that upon you saying your a restaurant worker). If you were to take the show you need to get effects, learn the patter and practice and have a routined show down perfecr and that cannot be achieved not even by that awesome....annoying/i hate that guy david blaine....
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I agree you need some kid show tricks. Here are some good ones:

- PB & J
- Confusing Crayons
- Vanishing Bandanna
- Coloring Book
- Hat Tears
- Square Circle
- Strat-O-Sphere
- Change Bag
- 20th Century Silks

If you got a bunch of those, made good routines, and practiced then you would be ready. You would be able to make a show about 30 or more minutes long if you put your mind to it.
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A lots of good up here Smile
Specally Change bag are good, Very funny with Nested wands to. Some wands here: Break away wand, Nested wands, bent wand and much more. super funnel, Monkey bar, also some good.
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...I'd say almost all effects you perform in a restaurant are useless to a childrens birthday party

Hi,
How can you know that he has not mentioned what effects he performs.

Chris,
really you have left it to late though. forget buying new props ect. Tell us what effects you perform competently now what ever the performing enviroment.

How long do you have to do?
what age group?
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"I'd say almost all effects you perform in a restaurant are useless to a childrens birthday party. (Course I don't know what you perform)"  - Is what I said Phillip.  Plus In a restaurant you don't perform peanut butter and jelly 20th century shorts or vanishing banddanna, do you?
If a magician is not intending to "trick" a spectator, why is every "trick" called a magic "trick"?
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Phillip is right. Because of the limits on time here. Lets find out what effects you do now that you are relaxed with. Maybe we can concentrate on taking some of these effects and making them into effects the kids might like and enjoy. Card tricks can be done if you use cards that have pictures on them or alphabet cards. These are items kids can relate better to. Lets find out what your currently performing and the group here can help give you ideas for doing them for a kids show. It's a start.
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"I'd say almost all effects you perform in a restaurant are useless to a childrens birthday party

Hi,
Well There we go, I do not perform peanut butter and jelly 20th century shorts or vanishing banddanna in a kids party either though I do perform " Proffesers nightmare, Vanishing hanky (tt), Cards Across, coin to impossible location all of which I have also performed table hopping. Just because you might not do it does not mean that it cannot be done succesfully.
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Dynamike, magic4u02, Emazdad, Neale Bacon, and Evan Williams seemed to agree with me.
If a magician is not intending to "trick" a spectator, why is every "trick" called a magic "trick"?
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Dynamike, magic4u02, Emazdad, Neale Bacon, and Evan Williams seemed to agree with me.


HI,
SO what difference does that make?
Not many people agreed with columbus when he said that the world was not flat!

If I do use some eefect that you would term resteraunt effects to entertain children then they could not be "Useless for that" as I have found them useful, I also use some card tricks. Everyone is different. Yes it might be easier to go the way of , PB& J, Vanishing Bandanna, Coloring Book, hippty hop rabbits, farmyard frolicks, run rabbit run ext if you lack the skills to present more "amazing" magic succesfully to kids. but that does not make the other effects "Useless" just useless to you.
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Nothing Personal to you or anyone that does those effects but if I was 5 I'd rather see entertainment such as hippity hop rabbits, vanishing bandanna ect. then see a "exciting" trick with coins. But that's just me...
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Hi,
You are entitled to your opinion. However, you cannot really say that a five year old would prefer traditional kids effects over the effects I use without seeing my presentations. You are basing your opinion on your own vision of a card trick, coin trick or whatever is presented….. if 5 year olds (or any age) did not like (or prefer) my magic over std kids effects then I would not be getting so much higher a fee than the other performers in the area and be continually turning work away…….

Kids and adults often say to me that one reason they like my show is that as well as being really funny ……. Your tricks are actually good too!

Phillip
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