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djurmann Inner circle thinks time to practice and stop writing 1481 Posts |
I forced a card out of a gimmicked deck - only the forced card was normal, All of the others were obviously different.
Force went fine. Spec/participant wanted to change his mind! What would you say/do? :) Danny |
HerbLarry Special user Poof! 731 Posts |
After the fact you are stuck bobbing and weaving. Use humor to your best ability to continue on, or even resort to retreat if necessary with a Ballentine "If your gonna be that way the whole trick is off!" and move on.
Before the fact you can be more selective as to who picks & set in play the quickness of the selection to avoid this problem.
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jpleddington Loyal user Lewisburg, PA 294 Posts |
I think you've gotta have a good one-line response -- preferably funny, as Herb suggests -- and move on quickly. Here's one off the top of my head: "Selecting a card isn't like marriage. Selecting a card is a commitment. You can't back out whenever you feel like it." Or perhaps simply: "Well, you don't always get what you want, do you?" It also occurs to me a Forrest Gump box-of-chocolates joke might work, but that's probably pretty lame.
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djurmann Inner circle thinks time to practice and stop writing 1481 Posts |
Good advice! I like the marriage line in particular ....also care in picking spec's !
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Ed_Millis Inner circle Yuma, AZ 2292 Posts |
Perhaps you could alter the flow of the routine a bit. Picking the card is usually a "big deal" - it is, after all, the pivot point of the trick, both for you and the spectator. But what if you made the actual moment of transfer from the deck to the spectator's hand just a brief off-beat moment?
Perhaps make selecting a card very casual, an event not really to be remembered because it could have been any 'ol card at all; what needs to grab the attention is everything else you're weaving around why a card was chosen and what's going to happen. Or build up the selection process, emphasizing the randomness and the fairness of the selection process, and how that plays out into the magical moments that are to follow. Then, when they've settled on "their" card and they are anxiously awaiting the magic to begin, offer the deck in a brief moment - "Take your card and do this with it." Having an out is good. Routining to mitigate or eliminate the need for one is preferred. Ed |
twm Regular user of wine. 109 Posts |
Have you any idea of the chain of events you set in motion when you pick a card? The wee folk are working overtime to set up the magic. They've given up their weekend off to be here and make this trick work for you. Do you really want them to have to start all over? Come on! Give the wee folk a break!
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jpleddington Loyal user Lewisburg, PA 294 Posts |
I think Ed's advice is excellent, and I'm taking it to heart. These sorts of problems are probably due to weaknesses in routining. Though one should have an out, anyway, as he says.
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Mike Maturen Inner circle Michigan's Beautiful Sunrise Side 2726 Posts |
You could always ask him to volunteer for your knife-throwing routine.
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jakubr Veteran user 326 Posts |
I love the line with marriage as well!
For me, I usually just say: 'ok, you'll change a card just in the second, let just do this...' - and I continue with the trick as usual. They think it's all ok, because I said I'll let them change it in the minute. But they never realize, where I lead them. And by the time effect is done, they forget, they even wanted to change the card. |
magicalmilton Regular user London/Mallorca 172 Posts |
Lol, yeah I used to get this alot, especially when I was doing the first trick of the act. the way I got around it was by having the card selected with the line "take a card and show it around to everyone else so that everyone can be a part of this..." for some reason that stopped people wanting to change the card, maybe because they felt that it was no longer just their decision but the whole audiences decision but tbh I'm not sure. If they do ask to change the card the marrage line above is good, variations are "no no, its one card per trick" or "you don't get to pick the card... the card chose you!" or (if the situation allows) "you don't want that card?! fine, pass it to the guy next to you, perhaps he'll be more grateful for it!"
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P.Synenberg New user Abingdon, Va 58 Posts |
When this happens I go into a wow routine and ask if they like that card better
-P.J. Synenberg
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Hansel Inner circle Puerto Rico 2492 Posts |
Djurmann:
When you use a forcing deck like this you are in a very "Hot" situation ( Highly gimmicked )...So, structure your routine with no lines, indeed no clue to the person that the choice of "change your mind" exist! In your situation? well, say to the spectator ok, put the card back in the deck, do some F**** shuffles and for** the same card again! -H
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On 2011-04-22 11:27, Hansel wrote: All good advice, thank you |
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djurmann Inner circle thinks time to practice and stop writing 1481 Posts |
Great advice from everyone!
Thank you one and all, Have a great Easter. Danny |
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