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Bill Hegbli
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Here is a more affordable Cone and balls still left over from the John Blake merchandise.

https://tricksupply.com/product/ball-cone-plus-john-blake/

I don't have this but it looks worth looking into, when they are gone, no more will be available, as John Blake passed away a few years ago, and Trick Supply took his existing stock.

John Blake also supplies a Salt Shaker, and his DVD instructions. If you remember Dai Vernon ended with a Salt Shaker to transition to the Long Salt Pour in his Harlequin Act.

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Used to be able to get a set with instructions for Aldo Colombini

not sure if it is still available
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On May 16, 2016, Bill Hegbli wrote:
Here is a more affordable Cone and balls still left over from the John Blake merchandise.

https://tricksupply.com/product/ball-cone-plus-john-blake/

I don't have this but it looks worth looking into, when they are gone, no more will be available, as John Blake passed away a few years ago, and Trick Supply took his existing stock.

John Blake also supplies a Salt Shaker, and his DVD instructions. If you remember Dai Vernon ended with a Salt Shaker to transition to the Long Salt Pour in his Harlequin Act.


Is this a leather cone or cardboard?
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The John Blake Cone is not leather and not flexible. It is a painted paper product. The paint job is mediocre at best. It is full of runs, dust particles and some air bubbles. It is very stiff and limited in doing some of the moves that a flexible leather cone will allow. It's best use is as a protective support for your leather cone. The balls aren't much better. The paint job shows dust particles and debris and has the hole where the nail or screw eye was used to hang the balls for painting.

You do get a "gimmick" to vanish salt (provide your own salt shaker/cellar and salt) but you don't need it. Simply use a large TT.

The DVD is very basic. In the performance section John appears to have to have to think about his next move and actually backs up a couple of times. You get the feeling that he doesn't perform this routine all that regularly.

The teaching part is generally adequate. The "move" is not well taught nor clearly shown on the DVD. There is enough given to tease out what you need to do to accomplish the routine. Anyone that has played with or read a version of the Ball, Cone, and Handkerchief probably doesn't need the explanation part of the DVD anyway. Watch the routine on YouTube and you know what is being done and when.

The routine has potential and could be entertaining.



Honestly I'd spend just a little more and get a better set including a leather cone.

Check out the set made by Frank at the "Ambitious Card". Real leather, real snooker balls (but no instructions or DVD).

http://www.theambitiouscard.com/category......le=Cones

So for under $30.00 you get a leather cone and better balls. This is a much better buy.

Or go all in and get George Millward's set at $140.00. The real value of George's set is the printed and DVD instructions to his routine.
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Thanks Harry, I did not know there was a demo of the late John Blake's Ball & Cone product.

So here is the video demo.





I enjoyed it, there was some ideas in his handling worth considering, and making note of.

Now that we seen the "The Professor" present it, we know the pacing and rhythm of how it should be presented.
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Need a Ball move, here the "Professor Shows a Billiard Ball Vanish and recovery.

How the "The Professor" does it.


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Dai Vernon Ball, Cone and Handkerchief is discribed in The Dai Vernon Book of Magic as well as the reprint by L&L Publications The Essential Dai Vernon book.

For many years the I have not been able to do this effect to my satisfaction, because of the ball move while covering the ball with the cone. This is one time I have to admit, personal instruction is needed and if not a video is needed. Did I say that, yes I did.

Interestingly enough, this is one of the effects that use simple props, but the props can cost more then your time in learning the effect. In other words is it really worth learning if the simple props are extremely costly. Other effects like the Color Changing Silks with a dye tube and the Silk to Egg are examples of tricks that fall into this catagory.

Just like these other tricks the Ball, Cone and Handkerchief falls into this catagory, but I must say, just as these other tricks the effect and magic is diffently worth it.



I saw someone use a New Years Eve horn for the ball and cone
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Senor Mardo used (and published his routine) a party horn in his Ball and Cone routine.
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Senor Mardo used (and published his routine) a party horn in his Ball and Cone routine.


His Cone and Ball routine is in the Appendix on page 27 of his book Cups and Balls by Senor Mardo.
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Johnny Brown (great Texas magician from a few decades ago) used a paper cone. Actually he used one of those cones that very large spools of twine or thread are wound on for commercial use. He painted his green ( I painted mine gold). His routine was pretty much the Mardo routine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh5CzvmOpiQ
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Johnny Brown's Cone and Ball routine, by the older Johnny Brown.


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On Sep 7, 2016, Harry Murphy wrote:
Senor Mardo used (and published his routine) a party horn in his Ball and Cone routine.


His Cone and Ball routine is in the Appendix on page 27 of his book Cups and Balls by Senor Mardo.



Senor Mardo's routine with the ball and cone is also in his book Routined Magic, page 8 - 10 .

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Hello everyone. I'm not always active here but I'm a fan of the ‘Cone and Ball’. So much so that I've been making a deluxe handmade set for over 3 years now. But beyond that, I would like to share with you my personal routine. I hope you like it.

https://youtu.be/FC2w8PCI5XY?si=ZoQ1XnYcemntN8Bf
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Hello everyone. I'm not always active here but I'm a fan of the ‘Cone and Ball’. So much so that I've been making a deluxe handmade set for over 3 years now. But beyond that, I would like to share with you my personal routine. I hope you like it.

https://youtu.be/FC2w8PCI5XY?si=ZoQ1XnYcemntN8Bf


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On Mar 14, 2025, Ignacio.Lopez wrote:
Hello everyone. I'm not always active here but I'm a fan of the ‘Cone and Ball’. So much so that I've been making a deluxe handmade set for over 3 years now. But beyond that, I would like to share with you my personal routine. I hope you like it.

https://youtu.be/FC2w8PCI5XY?si=ZoQ1XnYcemntN8Bf


Your Cone and Ball set is beautiful and elegant. I love seeing high-quality props like these. And your personal handling of the routine is great. Thanks for sharing .
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Ignacio, that was a very well done routine! Enjoyed it thoroughly.
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On Mar 15, 2025, drmagico wrote:
Ignacio, that was a very well done routine! Enjoyed it thoroughly.
Howard


Thank you Howard! I'm glad you like it.
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