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jeremysweiss Special user 742 Posts |
I blame Paul Carnazzo for even revealing the shockdoc sale sit to begin with....
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<BR>www.TheShockDocShow.com <BR> <BR> <BR>http://ballycast.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/ballycast-024-2009-03-21.mp3 <BR> <BR>"....Jeremy Weiss has the greatest card trick of ALL TIME!"--Jamie D. Grant. <BR>Start listening to iTricks 11/12/09 |
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doriancaudal Inner circle 1532 Posts |
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On 2011-05-24 17:15, mastermindreader wrote: This doesn't prove anything! Just by saying you own the effect, we should believe you? Come on... Please show a video of you performing the effect, and then we talk again.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
Frankly, Dorian, I couldn't care less if you believe me or not.
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Ustaad Inner circle Iindia - States 6157 Posts |
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On 2011-05-25 00:53, jeremysweiss wrote: If one decides to keep their exclusive arsenal of created magic/ mentalism to themselves and take it to their graves, then how does one expect the new generation to grow? I believe, and so would you, that for knowledge to grow it MUST be shared. Look at list of some of the GREAT mentalists who have shared & continue to share not only with the exclusive few but with the common’s as well:- Alexander, Theodore Annemann, Banachek, Keith Barry, Guy Bavli, David Berglas, Haim Goldenberg, Derren Brown, Kuda Bux, Bob Cassidy, Chan Canasta, Corinda, Joseph Dunninger, Mark Edward, Max Maven, Glenn Falkenstein, Uri Geller, The Amazing Kreskin, Al Koran, Max Maven, Gerry McCambridge, Mysterion the Mind Reader, Richard Osterlind, Marc Paul, The Piddingtons, The Zancigs, and the list goes on & on . . . have, over the years, unselfishly shared their ideas/ effects/ routines/ performances and most importantly their experiences. Just MY personal opinion! Thank you. And once again . . . continue please! P.S. This thread has taken an interesting turn.
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EricDraven Inner circle 1257 Posts |
I do not understand this discussion...if Jeremy decides to sell it this way at this price it is absolutely his choice...
I would be happy to purchase one of V2
Believe me...nothing is trivial...
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Ustaad Inner circle Iindia - States 6157 Posts |
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On 2011-05-25 02:34, EricDraven wrote: There is hardly anything to discuss, but we continue to bash on regardless . . .! Let’s call it a day. Goodnight all.
MAGIC is a SECRET, without the SECRET there is no MAGIC.
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Ben Harris V.I.P. The Land Down Under 2126 Posts |
Yes, the disrespect and arrogance is amazing. But, it's an internet forum--thus par for the course.
Benny
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
Benny you say you own the effect can you put up ademo for all of us to see.
and don't say you can/t because of respect to Jeremy. I don't want the seceret I just want to see it performed by you vinny |
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entermagic Special user 810 Posts |
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On 2011-05-25 05:55, Ben Harris wrote: Benny, as you said, we are on open forum, everyone express his opinion. I am always very skeptic. In this particular case, I don't see a reason to talk about this effect, due Jeremy doesn't want any disclosure about a description or video demo. The effect is also "sold out". Now, my question is: "Why Jeremy talks about of his new effect if no one can say anything about that?" My conclusion is: "Dirty advertisement" Obvious that it is just my conclusion. MP |
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
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On 2011-05-25 06:38, entermagic wrote: You seem to be put off because the first version was sold out. However, he is now going to offer the second version that is even better for sale. As for everyone asking for a demo---why should Jeremy post one? He is only selling 15 and quite frankly he doesn't care what the doubters think. He doesn't need to post a demo. |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
Here's the way the video notion would go down:
I, or someone else, puts up a video of the effect in performance. People watch it. Then the posts start appearing on the Café- "That doesn't prove anything! Those people were stooges or it was all p**-s*** or creative editing. Why should we believe that? Just another dirty advertisement! Bah! I don't want those grapes anyway!" Bob PS - Version 2 isn't actually "better" than the original, it's just a different approach. |
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entermagic Special user 810 Posts |
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On 2011-05-25 09:12, mastermindreader wrote: What I don't understand is: "The Version isn't actually "better" than the original one.." and is this message for us? The reader cannot say anything. The only persons that can comment what you have written are: Benny, you and Jeremy. A video demo or just a description gives the possibility to comment it writing their opinion. Someone could write the effect looks so impossible that the only explanation is using a stooge, but without anything I continue to say that this thread doesn't make sense. Just my opinion. MP |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
My comment about V2 not necessarily being better than the original was in response to a statement to that effect made a few posts back.
Personally, I agree with you that this thread doesn't make sense, since owners of the effect (which is no longer available) have signed non-disclosure agreements. Good thoughts, Bob |
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entermagic Special user 810 Posts |
Just I want to add something that I forgot first:
Maybe the only way reason to post a video demo is to avoid the reverse engineering, but if it is so good I believe the reverse engineering is impossible: Look this video, it looks like the Jeremy version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wXjNJG0rZc Try to perform a revere engineering of this effect explaining the exact method... I believe you are not able to answer this question. The only answer (the obvious answer) will be that the girl is a stooge, but is there anther clever solution? MP |
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
Expalin how can a second version be better than the Grail
what a buch of bull. common Benny put up a demo of you doing it, if you do, I will take your word that there is no stooge.... but like MP says there is another way vinny |
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
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On 2011-05-25 11:27, vinsmagic wrote: If you will take his word that there are no stooges, why will you not take his word that the effect is as Jeremy's describes? |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On 2011-05-25 11:27, vinsmagic wrote: A "bunch of bull"? I clearly stated that V2 is not "better." Perhaps you should have read my posts a bit more closely. |
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Amirá Inner circle MentalismCenter.com 5131 Posts |
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On 2011-05-25 10:38, entermagic wrote: Psychic powers is my solution.
Pablo
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
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On 2011-05-25 06:52, brehaut wrote: To the extent my post caused any confusion, I apologize. I have no basis to say the 2nd version is better. My main point was why post a demo? There is more than sufficient demand to sell 15 of the either the first or 2nd version without a demo |
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
First of all why would you need a second version when the holy grail exists.
and I do not know Jeremy but io do know Benny and I would like him to perform ther effe4ct . Ok, Mastermind you know the effect then can you put up a demo. |
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