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obsidian52 Elite user United States 402 Posts |
IIs there a good inexpensive way of holding all the kennedy gaffed coins together but seperate? to further explain lets just say keeping a scotch and soda set, seperate but sort of in the same place as an expanded shell or a hopping half set or even a CSB set? Yes, they can all be in a coin purse but how do you prevent the wrong coins nesting or locking from the wrong ones...if any of that makes any sense at all
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BanzaiMagic Inner circle 1339 Posts |
I've tried a bunch of what's out there, and I keep going back to JOL for most of what I have. My Kueppers Keepers work great for a show, because it makes organization a breeze. For example, you can keep both parts of an S&S next to each other in adjoining separate pockets (you have 8 pockets to work with). My problem is if I forget to take something out, the colored leather of the Kuppers Keeper will darken my silver coins in a strange way. The reason I like JOL for my Lassen and other high quality gaff coins is the lining. I have kept some things in a JOL wallet for months with no strange tarnishing. I have tried multiple-pocket coin purses, cheap JOL copies bought on EBAY (you get what you pay for), expensive Michael Rubenstein purses, horseshoe shaped snap purses with a built-in coin tray, antique purses and some of the excellent products from Frank Starsini here on the Café (my current favorites from him is a little unassuming zipper purse that easily holds 4 Morgan dollars with very little bulk in your pocket and the absolutely essential himber purse for my CSB set -if you don't have one along with a matching ungaffed purse, you seriously need to consider getting one). Each (other than the cheap EBAY 6 pocket purse) have their uses, particularly with regard to patter and performance. Oh, I almost forgot the excellent Ton Onasaka purses - I have quite a few of those as well. I find Onosaka purses particularly useful to keep multiple coins together that I use for a particular routine. For example, a TUC and the matching ungaffed coins. I find Onasaka purses to work best for three Kennedy half dollar coins or less - no dollar size coins.
If I were you, depending on how many gaffs you have, look into the JOL coin tidy. It has 6 pockets and folds up nicely. It's $20 well spent. Remember to always store/carry a shell on the appropriate coin, never loose. An S&S is usually made to be more robust than a shell and I've had no difficulty in putting them back to back in a tidy or even with a quarter in between in an Onosaka purse. Hope that helps. Regards, Alan |
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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
I would try to keep each gaffed set in a different purse - or purse compartment if you can get multi-compartment purses.
Otherwise just make sure to place the coins/gaffs in an order where they will not nest incorrectly. E.g., the closed side of a shell against another gaff, etc. Jim |
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inigmntoya Inner circle DC area native, now in Atlanta 2389 Posts |
I pretty much echo everything that BanzaiMagic said.
I've got a couple JOL Coin Tidys and one knock off that came with a coin set I bought here. The knock off, made of unlined leather, darkened some copper coins really badly. The coin tidy is mainly for storage/transport if you're storing more than one "trick" in it. It would look really fishy to do a trick with a half dollar and English penny and then go back to your coin tidy to put them away, only to pull out a different half and penny for another trick. In addition to the coin tidys, I have a few separate purses for tricks that use a "set" of coins such as C/S/B and my Hopping Halves. For those the purse can be introduced at the start of the routines vs having to pull the coins out ahead of time. If you routine them right, it makes sense to have to pull out another purse to do another trick -- e.g. you end up empty handed at the end of the hopping half routine. Go from there to a purse or tidy with a set of halves and a sh*** or fl****r (or BOTH), and you're set to do a whole bunch of stuff with no further switches needed. |
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David Neighbors V.I.P. 4914 Posts |
Yea Mult. coin Purses are a good Thing! I am all ways looking for close-up bags with a lot of small pockets in them! I have found a few at some of the used places! An switching coin purses! That what non-coin tricks are for!!! ( AKA. Do a coin trick, Put the purse away. Do a non-coin trick. then bring a 2th. coin purse out! ) Ha-Ha.
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BanzaiMagic Inner circle 1339 Posts |
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On 2011-05-19 07:29, David Neighbors wrote: Great point, as usual, David. Plus, although I could watch coin tricks all day long, specs like variety. |
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David Neighbors V.I.P. 4914 Posts |
Yea Thanks Man! Yea you mite even lurn 1 or 2 card tricks!
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obsidian52 Elite user United States 402 Posts |
Hmmm, okay good brainstorming I will definitely look into a JOL coin tidy....BUT... how about an ordinary (and I do mean ordinary) clasp coin purse with those little clear plastic sleeves (envelopes) the coins come shipped in...I was thinking the soft plastic like the ones Tango seems to use... and just keeping a S&S a shell a CSB set in those sleeves and let the other coins dollars or halves just be in there for matrix or coins across routines
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BanzaiMagic Inner circle 1339 Posts |
I find getting the coins out of those sleeves to be irritating and time consuming. They are designed to keep oxidation to a minimum for coin collectors, but coin collectors rarely take the coins out of the sleeves. You want to make this as easy as possible in a performance. But you also need to do what is comfortable for you. Try several options before you settle on one that works for you.
Another option is a Zippered coin case like this: http://eastcoastmagic.com/jolzicoca.html The only bad thing about this case is that you have to make sure the case stays right side up, otherwise the half dollar coins dump out into the center of the case. Another option to use instead of the coin sleeves would be those tiny zip lock bags that crafters use. This avoids the oxidation (darkening) and keeps the coins separated. I have found these in packs of 100 in the craft section of Walmart for a couple of bucks. I have used those ziplock bags to hold silver coins in multi pocket coin purses that I know from past experience have oxidized coins. |
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BanzaiMagic Inner circle 1339 Posts |
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On 2011-05-19 14:33, David Neighbors wrote: Not unless I have to. I leave that to my partner/grandson who loves cards. I'll stick with ropes, silks, dice, boxes and brasses. |
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David Neighbors V.I.P. 4914 Posts |
Yea That mite be even better! Or some rubberband magic! Yuo can carry them on you wrist And thay will not get in the way of your coin magic!
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foolsnobody Special user Buffalo, NY 842 Posts |
I have no idea if this is practical or not. I'm a card guy.
Say you don't do enough coin stuff to carry several different purses but you do do enough that you have a few gaffed sets that you don't want to get mixed up. Is that what you're talking about? How about having a tailor sew two or three dividers into your pants pockets? Then when you are intending to perform just keep your scotch and soda in one of the compartments and the two coppers one silver (for example) in another. The dividers are lower in the pocket than the front of the pocket so the spectators have no idea you even *have* dividers. It looks to them like you just reach in your pocket and pull out "a few coins." This would look and work better with good suit trousers rather than jeans, so it will encourage you to dress well! The trousers in gentlemen's suits have "deep pockets." |
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David Neighbors V.I.P. 4914 Posts |
That Could work! I have done that with a thunb tip pocket in the back side of The Front Trousers Pockets !
And for 3 in. coins in the top part of the botton vest pockets! But most guys will not go to that much work! |
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BanzaiMagic Inner circle 1339 Posts |
Because of their heft and slickness, coins tend to "jump" around more than other gaffs. I guess that is why they invented coin purses to begin with. Still, your idea of dividers has some merit - perhaps with velcro? - would work with larger coin purses as well.
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David Neighbors V.I.P. 4914 Posts |
Yea I found a Coin purse One Time That had a small pocket In it! wish I could find more!
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts |
There are these fun little SD card cases made by CaseLogic that I love for carrying all my coins around. I can fit 12 half dollar-size coins in one case or 6 dollar-sized coins in one case. You can get them on the CaseLogic website at http://www.caselogic.com and I believe it is under the media storage tab.
The ouside is leather and has a belt loop on it, and the inside is lined with a soft cloth material, similar to a polishing cloth. |
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723sabre Loyal user 260 Posts |
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On 2011-05-20 14:30, Dr_J_Ayala wrote: Hey, these look great! Thanks for the information- |
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BanzaiMagic Inner circle 1339 Posts |
The caselogic case referred to by Dr. Ayala is very similar to the JOL zippered case I referred to above. I have both, and for the life of me I can't tell the difference between the caselogic and the JOL other than the exterior. A good cheap alternative to the JOL. You may even find them on sale at Office Depot (they were designed to hold digital media). I do use this, but the negatives I wrote about the JOL zippered case apply to the caselogic case as well. If you don't keep the case with the pocket side down and the opening up, the coins frequently jumble into the middle of the case. Not a big problem, but it has happened to me and slowed me down when I was trying to get to the coins quickly. It works better if you have two halfs in each pocket, rather than only one.
Regards, Alan |
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inigmntoya Inner circle DC area native, now in Atlanta 2389 Posts |
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On 2011-05-20 17:28, BanzaiMagic wrote: Try a Tamrac memory card wallet. They have little red flaps at the top of the slots designed to make it easy for photographers to know which memory cards have been used, and which have not. With the flap out, you have a "stop" to keep your coins from slipping out. See: http://www.tamrac.com/g_strapaccessory.htm#MXS5368 When I bought my photo backpack a few years back, I think they were pitching this "flap" feature as a Tamrac exclusive, so I don't know if it's available elsewhere. |
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BanzaiMagic Inner circle 1339 Posts |
Thanks, inigmntoya, for the heads up.
If you use this for coins, what is your experience? |
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