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I've just heard this is in the works. Who was in the room with me at MINDvention two years ago when Jeremy blew me away though? Max? I think you were there. Was anyone else? It was just so perfect- it was staggering, but I need someone to confirm that it wasn't a dream, lol...
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But the cards were on the table...
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It does on Jeremys website that the version seen at Mindvention was $2,400 and is
sold out [of course!]

Version 2 may very well be $20.00 and not sell out.
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V 2.0 will be priced the same as the original. Purchasers of version 1 will get new work for free. Version 2 will also be a limited release. I will not discuss any other details at this time. IF I go to MindVention this year (big IF), I will be willing to demo it to the whole audience if Danny Archer let's me...
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Another Joke? WOW!

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ILL PUT MY UN-HOLY GRAIL CAAN UP AGAINST THIS EFFECT THIS ANY TIME LOL..... JUST PM ME ILL SEND DEMO

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If it's as good as the price suggests then why wouldn't Danny Archer allow it to be presented. $2400 for a card revelation is a bit ridiculous. This is an effect that can be performed in so many ways that will fool a lay audience. Why pay to only fool magicians? Keep in mind that I'm not opposed to paying big bucks for a great effect. I actually use a Labco product along with a MD as an open index to accomplish the same effect. With this version the deck is on the table and the work is done before the card is announced. Best of all I get to use my Labco product as a powerful tool for other effects. I'm also still up $700 over this mysterious limited edition.

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Un holy grail is free to any one that's wants it just pm me
with e mail address
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On 2011-05-22 16:14, Sock Puppet Monkey wrote:
If it's as good as the price suggests then why wouldn't Danny Archer allow it to be presented. $2400 for a card revelation is a bit ridiculous. This is an effect that can be performed in so many ways that will fool a lay audience. Why pay to only fool magicians? Keep in mind that I'm not opposed to paying big bucks for a great effect. I actually use a Labco product along with a MD as an open index to accomplish the same effect. With this version the deck is on the table and the work is done before the card is announced. Best of all I get to use my Labco product as a powerful tool for other effects. I'm also still up $700 over this mysterious limited edition.

SPM


Exists a very easy way to accomplish the effect described by JW and, if the method is the same, (I suppose that his version is not a Joke), in his description has missed something. With my idea you have a full impromptu routine where you hands the deck the spectator, he names a number, he names a card from the deck, he counts at his named number and his card is there. The secret? Maybe, I will reveal it for free, as I already done in past with other versions, on this forum and not for 2.400$ LOL.

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Jeremy, it's refreshing to see guys like you doing what you're doing. Don't pay any attention to the haters. I'm looking forward to seeing some of your creations.

All the best,
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It is the price of 2400 dollars that we are hating not Jeremy or his work.
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On 2011-05-22 21:04, MJ Marrs wrote:
Jeremy, it's refreshing to see guys like you doing what you're doing. Don't pay any attention to the haters. I'm looking forward to seeing some of your creations.

All the best,
MJ


Not sure why one would describe me as a "hater"...I love magic and according to my wife the price really doesn't matter so this doesn't have anything whatsoever to do with hating someone's work. It does have everything to do with critically examining the claims of new products that come out. Version 1 allegedly sold out at $2400 a piece. I don't really buy that and happen to think it's a bit of a marketing scam by a few people who perpetuate these kinds of inflated value for their "exclusive" effects to create hype/demand.

Let's see a demo video of the effect and see if it's worth the price. How about a few reviews from real people that actually bought the effect and not the guys friends/cronies. My ACAAN cost me about $2000 (Labco + Mnemonica/Aranson's Simply Simon) so it's not about not wanting to spend the money. The difference is I know what I'm getting when I buy Labco/etc. versus plunking down a bunch of coin on yet another ACAAN pipe dream.

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So, here is the deal....a while ago a certain famous someone performer asked me to "consult" on a project of theirs. He wanted a secret that I have that isn't for sale. (It is something of my own devising so, no one else has it and I have never given it away; so it is exclusive to me.) So, I started trying to figure out what that secret is worth--not in a philosophical sense, but in a real-world sense. What is it worth--for a performer --a REAL performer with a Vegas or Broadway stage show (or a movie), as opposed to 47,400 of the 47,561 users that we have here, to put my effect in his show? An effect that nobody else could have, because I wouldn't give it to anyone else. EVER!

So I go to my friend, who actually does this kind of consulting for a living (a guy like Steinmeyer, for example)--they bring him into movies and stuff....and I ask my friend, "What is an idea like this actually worth in the ENTERTAINMENT business?. He says, "Oh, that idea?! Well, an idea like that would be worth about [X] number of grand depending on if the idea was used for a one time TV special never to be aired again, or a show like on the Discovery channel that would air over and over, or if it was for a theatrical show).

So now I think I have a much more reasonably educated idea of how valuable a secret is actually worth in terms of its rarity, its quality and how it will be used.

Let me say, that $2,400 for my original ACAAN or for ACAAN 2: Holier Than Thou, is worth it. it is priced exactly right.

People like Entermagic are just ticked off that they can't (and won't) have it. (For the rest of you, I am sorry it is so expensive.)

Anyways, forget asking Danny Archer...if I am there, I will perform it in the hallway at least once....maybe twice....
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Looking forward to version 2, Jeremy. I can't see how it could be better than the first, but am excited!

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On 2011-05-23 00:45, Ben Harris wrote:
Looking forward to version 2, Jeremy. I can't see how it could be better than the first, but am excited!

Benny


Saying that "you can't see how it could be better than the first..." I suppose you have seen the first one.
I bet you don't see it. The strange thing is that everyone refused to write a full description. I asked via PM
some people to describe this effect (These persons have criticized JW ACAAN as they have seen it) and unbelievable
they are not able to describe the effect Smile

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How about a demo I am not familar with version one or your new version.
just want to see your effect in real world condition
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Lol,

I had no idea this was such a hot topic! And, I'm afraid, I'm pretty useless here due to, what I'm sure are false memories on my part. That's why I was wondering who else was with me (it was in the Dealer's Room, I think).

The only guarantee is the feeling I'm left with, two years later. One of pure amazement. I remember distinctively thinking at the time about whether everyone who was watching was in on it. And then it was repeated, to the same result. It was pure magic.

That said, I'm not sure that price is a huge deal. There's a bunch of stuff in the world that I'll never buy (i.e. Lear Jet), but I don't blame Lear for it. I just think, "If it causes them to fail in a business sense, what business is it of mine?"

With regards to this effect, though, I've paid (as we all have) tons of moohlah for stuff I'll never use. So I'm sure if Jeremy is offering this kind of price, he'll be sure to back it up~ customer service wise.

My 2 cents,

jamie

P.S. Let me also say that I'm, without question, friends with Jeremy Weiss- and proud to say so. I don't want people to think I'm shilling or anything. But hopefully my reputation and Magic Friday history will speak for me. And, now that I think about it- I'm not suggesting anyone buy this in the first place, lol. I just heard that Jeremy was going to release it- and I never purchased the first one, lol. I still have no idea how it worked- and that's fine with me.
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Steve: "Am I remembering this correctly? Wasn't the deck was on the table when I told you the card!"

Me:"That's right."

Steve: "That's **#@$ amazing...I don't have a clue how you did that!

Me: "That makes me happy."

That's pretty much the actual conversation when I performed my ACAAN to an extremely knowledgeable magic friend. As for Jeremy's version I can't say thatanyting because we have a Berglas recollection of an effect that has no demo video, not even a carefully worded dealer ad.

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SMP,

That's the perfect way to describe it, "A Berglas recollection." I think you just added "ABR" to the magic lexicon!

"I can't explain it, it was a while ago...and I've got ABR. It was awesome though!"

~jamie
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The effect is worth what someone is willing to pay - purely market driven - no more no less.

Talking to informed friends about the value of proprietary knowledge can be a useful guide - but in the end the effect is worth what a buyer is willing to part with in terms of cash.
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