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On 2011-05-23 02:26, Jamie D. Grant wrote:
SMP,

That's the perfect way to describe it, "A Berglas recollection." I think you just added "ABR" to the magic lexicon!

"I can't explain it, it was a while ago...and I've got ABR. It was awesome though!"

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Are you sure it wasn't more of a hangover thing from Vegas...just wondering.
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I'm not a hater either.I think it is a good idea to have effects priced high and
keep them exclusive.But I would have thought that working pros could be offered
these effects in private.
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Vinny just shared his unholy grail with me, it's one of the most elegant CAANs I have ever seen - if he's still offering it then I suggest you contact him.

To my mind these very expensive effects are only if you really want or need to fool a magician, laypeople are fooled by much, much simpler handlings e.g - second dealing until the right number.
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Spectator deals the cards face up with a regular deck that's already on the table before the card/number is revealed. That's the Berglas litmus test and all versions fail to come up to that standard. Anyone who says different is playing word games with their dealer ad. They often use words like "...here's what the spectator sees..."

A question for Ben Harris...you provide a glowing recommendation but are you one of the limited few who own this? One might argue that the latter would be a stronger commitment. I happen to love your work with Crossroads and not surprisingly own it. Ditto for Jamie's bottle.

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On 2011-05-22 23:56, jeremysweiss wrote:
So, here is the deal....a while ago a certain famous someone performer asked me to "consult" on a project of theirs. He wanted a secret that I have...


Did he ask for a demo video? Smile
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Hmm $2,400 for a card trick.

Actually what the price is is entirely down to the seller on this one imho.

I think there's a lot of crap sold to a lot of people at low prices that generate turnover and, even if a proportion of customers complain, you still make some money out of it.(at least once before your rep suffers)

In Jeremy's case though he is selling at quite a high level and that gives me a feeling of confidence because he knows that there isn't one purchaser at that price who is going to put up with shoddy goods. Theres none of the flim flam and getting your buddies to say people just don't get it, that you get with lower priced tat.

You'll know it if it isn't up to spec.

No way, as an amateur that I would ever lay out that much money on an effect but does it bother me that others might--no, if its good enough to go at that price then great.

In fact I think the fact that magic that is still unique being hard to purchase is a good thing.
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On 2011-05-23 13:28, Chessmann wrote:
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On 2011-05-22 23:56, jeremysweiss wrote:
So, here is the deal....a while ago a certain famous someone performer asked me to "consult" on a project of theirs. He wanted a secret that I have...


Did he ask for a demo video? Smile


One would presume he had an in-person demo.
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Being one of the Holier than thou inner circle.
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On 2011-05-22 16:21, vinsmagic wrote:
Un holy grail is free to any one that's wants it just pm me
with e mail address
vinny
Had a chance to view Vinny's CAAN. I'm always amazed how he comes up with such unique methods to accomplish an effect. No, it's not the Holy Grail and is probably more suited for a cardician than a mentalist-but it is very good. The illusion under the right circumstances is perfect and the method could probably be used for many other effects. Plus, of course, the price is right. Vinny, great job as usual!

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On 2011-05-22 23:56, jeremysweiss wrote:
So, here is the deal....a while ago a certain famous someone performer asked me to "consult" on a project of theirs. He wanted a secret that I have that isn't for sale. (It is something of my own devising so, no one else has it and I have never given it away; so it is exclusive to me.) So, I started trying to figure out what that secret is worth--not in a philosophical sense, but in a real-world sense. What is it worth--for a performer --a REAL performer with a Vegas or Broadway stage show (or a movie), as opposed to 47,400 of the 47,561 users that we have here, to put my effect in his show? An effect that nobody else could have, because I wouldn't give it to anyone else. EVER!

So I go to my friend, who actually does this kind of consulting for a living (a guy like Steinmeyer, for example)--they bring him into movies and stuff....and I ask my friend, "What is an idea like this actually worth in the ENTERTAINMENT business?. He says, "Oh, that idea?! Well, an idea like that would be worth about [X] number of grand depending on if the idea was used for a one time TV special never to be aired again, or a show like on the Discovery channel that would air over and over, or if it was for a theatrical show).

So now I think I have a much more reasonably educated idea of how valuable a secret is actually worth in terms of its rarity, its quality and how it will be used.

Let me say, that $2,400 for my original ACAAN or for ACAAN 2: Holier Than Thou, is worth it. it is priced exactly right.

People like Entermagic are just ticked off that they can't (and won't) have it. (For the rest of you, I am sorry it is so expensive.)

Anyways, forget asking Danny Archer...if I am there, I will perform it in the hallway at least once....maybe twice....


Jeremy,

No need to apologize for the price---this is America. If people are not interested, that is their choice. Quite frankly I think the price makes absolute sense especially since the first one sold out.
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$2400 is a drop in the ocean for tv, why wouldnt it be worth it? Not everything is, nor should be sold cheapily. And I don't get why some of you are ravenously chasing down jeremy just cos he's got something you're not going to get yer mitts on?

why is it so important to you?! be happy with what you've got...

I only saw it performed the once...and it was one of those white-heat full on flush like moments...
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On 2011-05-23 18:40, IAIN wrote:
$2400 is a drop in the ocean for tv, why wouldnt it be worth it? Not everything is, nor should be sold cheapily. And I don't get why some of you are ravenously chasing down jeremy just cos he's got something you're not going to get yer mitts on?

why is it so important to you?! be happy with what you've got...

I only saw it performed the once...and it was one of those white-heat full on flush like moments...


So this is something that you immediately added to your repertoire? If I wanted it then I would buy it but based on what? The vague recollections of people who don't know quite remember the specifics. Not that ravenous about it.

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Lets see a DEMO ..... If it was that good I am sure we would of heard about it thru the grapevine..
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On 2011-05-23 20:09, vinsmagic wrote:
Lets see a DEMO ..... If it was that good I am sure we would of heard about it thru the grapevine..


Why should he show a demo? It is completely up to Jeremy. If he can sell the effect out without a demo, why post one. I know a lot of people who will never buy the effect want a demo but that is not their call.
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On 2011-05-23 20:09, vinsmagic wrote:
Lets see a DEMO ..... If it was that good I am sure we would of heard about it thru the grapevine..


Why should he show a demo? It is completely up to Jeremy. If he can sell the effect out without a demo, why post one. I know a lot of people who will never buy the effect want a demo but that is not their call.


Ok, how about a review from a real person that has purchased it.
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I have seen comments on this site on various threads of people who have seen it and rave about it.
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On 2011-05-23 00:59, entermagic wrote:
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On 2011-05-23 00:45, Ben Harris wrote:
Looking forward to version 2, Jeremy. I can't see how it could be better than the first, but am excited!

Benny


Saying that "you can't see how it could be better than the first..." I suppose you have seen the first one.
I bet you don't see it. The strange thing is that everyone refused to write a full description. I asked via PM
some people to describe this effect (These persons have criticized JW ACAAN as they have seen it) and unbelievable
they are not able to describe the effect Smile

MP


This is simply not true. I've seen it. And I've described it several times in several threads.
The fact that I don't include details from which you hope to re-construct the method is frustrating I understand.

Frankly what you chose to believe is your business, it doesn't change a thing.

Sincere best wishes on your journey,

d
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Lets see Prediction Extreme V2 !!

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I continue to see his effect like a dirty advertisment.
I bet, as soon as possible, he will propose a new cheaper effect
and also if you try to buy it he won't sell you it.
I have an idea he says 2400$? Ok, here the solusion: 100 persons send the money to one person
and this person buys the effect for everyone. 2400/100 = 24$... Now the effect
has good price. Obvious, I am out, I don't want to know this effect.
For me it is just another joke.

MP
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