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bsears Inner circle Cincinnati, Ohio 1040 Posts 
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In addition to angles, I am also a bit concerned about the thickness of some pieces if the audience it too close. Would love to hear from someone who performs TORN as to how practical it is in non-parlor/stage situations.
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lukecloughmagic Loyal user 250 Posts
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Personally I love Shaun Farquhars Torn 2 Pieces, its something I do everywhere I go and do at all my strolling parties/weddings etc. Granted it takes a little bit of a set up before you leave but once you get used to it it doesn't take long at all!
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paisa23 Inner circle 7293 Posts
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On 2011-06-01 12:46, Blindside785 wrote: I love Torched and Restored but even though it envolves an extra prop, Chaptrick you can do Perfectly surrounded but IS NOT A PIECE BY PIECE!! Vinny would love to hear some off your favs on this. Torn Too Although great I have a personal thing with it. I love it just don't have the confidense of doing it... Its a Light thing.... I have also read a bit on Shaun Farquhars Torn 2 Pieces and seems really good just not sure on the prep and how practical it is for Strolling.. Also wanted to add the Counterfiet Hollingsworth from Wayne Houchin has really nice angles and with proper management I think you might be able to do this almost fully surrounded..
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mattmagic149 Loyal user Austria 215 Posts
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On 2011-06-09 14:44, lukecloughmagic wrote: Torn 2 pieces is great, but actually Shaun ripped this off. The original is by Dan Harlan and it is called Crazy 8. However mismade effects are great!
Practicing is like a bank, if you don't put anything in, you won't get anything out!
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TheGreatRaymondo Special user Manchester, England 969 Posts
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On 2011-06-01 16:03, bsears wrote: Trust me this effect rocks! There is some serious heavy weight magic going on here... The spectator has a genuine and free choice of any card in the deck. No force of any kind required (just how nice is that?) The spectator signs the card. The card is cleanly and visibly torn into 4 clear and distinct pieces directly in front of the spectator The 4 pieces are then set alight and burned. The 4 torn and burnt pieces are then visibly restored directly in front of the spectator. The card can immediately be handed out for inspection or given to the spectator as a souvenir There is an istantaneous reset and the effect can be immediately repeated with any other card in the deck. It is easy (genuinely) to perform! Really, what more could a performer ask for? I have genuinely seen spectators mouths drop open in astonishment when I have restored the card in front of them. I use this for strolling and street performances every time (and I do mean everytime) I perform. As as said - this thing rocks!
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puggo Inner circle 2022 Posts
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On 2011-06-10 05:53, mattmagic149 wrote: I appreciate that English may be your second language, but to say that Shawn 'ripped this off' is unfair - I say this based on Dan Harlan & Shawn Farquhar's communications where both seemed happy... |
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts
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Whatcha all think of Blake Vogt's R3F4M?
Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
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Blindside785 Inner circle Olympia, WA 4540 Posts
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On 2011-06-11 18:06, Mr. Mystoffelees wrote: It's good, It just depends on your style. In REF4M, you have to tear the pieces which is something I don't like too much. I'd rather do Torched & Restored or Ultimate Rip-off. I'm awaiting Counterfeit Hollingworth to come in the mail, I'm excited to see how that goes. |
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paisa23 Inner circle 7293 Posts
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On 2011-06-11 18:26, Blindside785 wrote: Love it
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Ryan Bliss Regular user 136 Posts
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I have put a lot of work into his Torn routine. Im very happy that someone put out a very nice, pretty, and magical looking TNR Card effect that does not use wacky gimmicks or weird handling. But I would not perform this walk around. With people being all around, I think there are effects MORE suited for the venue. HOWEVER in stand up performance, this fits the ticket nicely.
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bsears Inner circle Cincinnati, Ohio 1040 Posts
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Ryan - I have come to that conclusion. Having practiced TORN for weeks now, I started doing it in the mirror and sadly found out just how terrible the angles are, especially on the last piece. I love the structure and "purist" feel of the routine, but I'll continue examining the other methods for use in my close-up sets.
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts
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I also deal with the "thickness" issue in Rehab. The pieces are never very thick. The thickest they get is toward the end and even then, there is a built in display which completely covers them so people won't see anything.
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mr.matt New user 61 Posts
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I will tack on a thumbs up for REF4M. I really like the simplicity of it. Just one card.... that's it. I have not performed it yet since I've only owned it a few days, but it looks good so far in the mirror. Probably hit the wife and family with it this weekend.
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Ryan Bliss Regular user 136 Posts
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Bsears. I undertand the angle issue, this is why I addressed that this is better suited for a stand up "parlor" type venue then walk around.
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bsears Inner circle Cincinnati, Ohio 1040 Posts
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An update:
I purchased Rehab from Cameron Francis and have to say it has addressed all of my concerns. It IS very practical for use in a strolling/restaurant environment. Don't make the mistake (like I did) of thinking it was just a variation of Torn, because it's not. It's totally different and has some clever, original thinking that makes it very user friendly. Don't get me wrong, I still love Torn. Torn is a thing of true beauty and would be perfect for a controlled environment where angles are not an issue. Rehab, however, is a much more practical piece by piece restoration and something I will use frequently. |
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AngeloR Elite user 441 Posts
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Although my experience with various T&R's is somewhat limited, I find Cameron's Rehab to be a real worker and quite "angle-friendly".
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1tepa1 Inner circle 1282 Posts
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In Paul Lepauls book the card magic of Lepaul there is a torn and restored card that is angle proof and also impromptu. A real gem. Even Darwin Ortiz does a version of it in his nothing but the best dvd series.
The card magic of Lepaul: An impromptu torn and restored card; page 161. |
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Daniel Clemente Special user Mount Joy, PA 790 Posts
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I've only played with Torn in the mirror, but I can see the angles causing slight problems on restore of corner 3 and 4...I do like the visual aspect of the effect though...Garcia did a wonderful with Torn
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paisa23 Inner circle 7293 Posts
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You know what after many many years of practicing with certain TNR effects, I have come to what I consider my sole opinion. That is that some effects can only be truly magicial in its creators hands... This effect being one of them. I would say I have a similar style of performing as daniel and I can do this effect flawlessly. Yet I still do not believe it comes off as magical as when DG does it. I mean there are certain nuances and subtleies that he does that ARE his. I wouldnt do them because it wouldnt look right in my hands. So this effect will be an effect that I will play with in my own home, but I do not see me doing this at a paid gig.
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Hugokhf Special user 581 Posts
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On 2011-05-29 10:48, Cameron Francis wrote: what you do/say when busted? I really want to know how to treat these situation professinally |
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