On 2011-05-31 13:00, MitchellMac wrote:
Theory11's brought out something called Ref4m. According to them it's a piece by piece restoration that can be done surrounded. I haven't purchased it, but by the looks of the actual trick I'd reckon its not the best looking TnR out on the market. That's just my opinion though.

On 2011-08-24 00:00, paisa23 wrote:
You know what after many many years of practicing with certain TNR effects, I have come to what I consider my sole opinion. That is that some effects can only be truly magicial in its creators hands... This effect being one of them. I would say I have a similar style of performing as daniel and I can do this effect flawlessly. Yet I still do not believe it comes off as magical as when DG does it. I mean there are certain nuances and subtleies that he does that ARE his. I wouldnt do them because it wouldnt look right in my hands. So this effect will be an effect that I will play with in my own home, but I do not see me doing this at a paid gig.

On 2011-06-01 07:29, vinsmagic wrote:
Even if the angles in some resturants are not a problem piece by piece needs some distannce to look good

On 2011-06-15 13:14, bsears wrote:
Ryan - I have come to that conclusion. Having practiced TORN for weeks now, I started doing it in the mirror and sadly found out just how terrible the angles are, especially on the last piece. I love the structure and "purist" feel of the routine, but I'll continue examining the other methods for use in my close-up sets.

On 2011-06-11 12:50, TheGreatRaymondo wrote:

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On 2011-06-01 16:03, bsears wrote:
In addition to angles, I am also a bit concerned about the thickness of some pieces if the audience it too close. Would love to hear from someone who performs TORN as to how practical it is in non-parlor/stage situations.

Trust me this effect rocks! There is some serious heavy weight magic going on here...
The spectator has a genuine and free choice of any card in the deck. No force of any kind required (just how nice is that?)
The spectator signs the card.
The card is cleanly and visibly torn into 4 clear and distinct pieces directly in front of the spectator
The 4 pieces are then set alight and burned.
The 4 torn and burnt pieces are then visibly restored directly in front of the spectator.
The card can immediately be handed out for inspection or given to the spectator as a souvenir
There is an istantaneous reset and the effect can be immediately repeated with any other card in the deck.
It is easy (genuinely) to perform!
Really, what more could a performer ask for? I have genuinely seen spectators mouths drop open in astonishment
when I have restored the card in front of them. I use this for strolling and street performances every time
(and I do mean everytime) I perform. As as said - this thing rocks!

On 2013-09-03 11:41, AdamChance wrote:

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On 2011-06-15 13:14, bsears wrote:
Ryan - I have come to that conclusion. Having practiced TORN for weeks now, I started doing it in the mirror and sadly found out just how terrible the angles are, especially on the last piece. I love the structure and "purist" feel of the routine, but I'll continue examining the other methods for use in my close-up sets.

I'm kind of in the same boat. been practicing it, but the angles and handling of the last piece are proving to be problematic. for the third piece, you can bring it out of your pocket ready to attach, so no "get ready" is needed for that piece and the angles are better.

so here's what I'm thinking for the 4th piece:

have only 1/4 of the back of the card signed by the spec. once the third piece is attached, fold the 3rd piece down, and then fold the piece on the right back over it, and then turn the pack over so they can still see their initials on the quarter of the card. so now you've got a folded up card, but they think there's only 3 quarters of the card. you can then pull down with your thumb to steal away the extra piece, and then go to your pocket to "get the 4th piece" you ditch the thing in your hand and come out empty (but pretending to hold the last piece) and then pretend to fuse it onto the card. this obviously isn't a visual restoration, but the angles are good, it's easy, and you finish 100% clean.

to make this better, you could actually pull out a 4th piece... hand the folded up card to the spectator... vanish the 4th piece in your hand... the spectator opens the card to find it totally restored. this is cool because they'll think they are holding 3/4 of their card and that the last piece attached magically in their hand. to make this look the best... the specs card should be forced... and then the magician can write the date or something like that on the face of that 4th quarter of the card. the spec then signs their signiture over the other part of the card. so then when you pull out the 4th quarter from your pocket, it can be the same card with the same date written on the face of that card. so you'll pull out the 4th piece, you show it both sides, show that the face has today's date written on it. then maybe vanish this piece with a TT... they open their hand to find that piece is attached and their card is restored.

hopefully that made sense. you'll probably have to get out some cards and follow along. but this might be a reasonable solution to the angle problems. and even though the 4th restoration isn't as visual... the angles are not an issue, the last piece is restored in the specs hand, and you finish clean... plus no funny handling moves that is required in the get ready for the 4th restoration.

has anyone done this handling before? anyone have any tips or suggestions?