The Magic Café
Username:
Password:
[ Lost Password ]
  [ Forgot Username ]
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » The Science of Magic » » Sleights of Mind (1 Likes) Printer Friendly Version

 Go to page 1~2 [Next]
Peter Stobie
View Profile
Regular user
Milwaukee, WI
177 Posts

Profile of Peter Stobie
Has anyone read this book by Stephen L. Macknik and Susana Martinez-Conde? I got it from our library and I'm half way through. It explains the neuroscience behind what we do! I definitely recommend it! Published in 2010 by Henry Holt and Company.

Pete
Trekdad
View Profile
Elite user
Telford, PA
445 Posts

Profile of Trekdad
I've just started reading it. It's shaping up to be an interesting read. I do like the "spoiler" alerts in the margins for those who don't wish to know the principle at work, but human nature being what it is . . .
Barnhardt: You have tested this theory?
Klaatu: I find it works well enough to get me from one planet to the next.
The Day the Earth Stood Still
Peter Stobie
View Profile
Regular user
Milwaukee, WI
177 Posts

Profile of Peter Stobie
I'm loving the anecdotes about the magicians they worked with. Great stories and lots of fun. Very insightful on how we can improve upon the psychology with each of our rouutines!

Pete
Jon_Thompson
View Profile
Inner circle
Darkest Cheshire
2404 Posts

Profile of Jon_Thompson
Yes, it's a great read. It's good to see someone putting some science behind what we're always suspected.
Peter Stobie
View Profile
Regular user
Milwaukee, WI
177 Posts

Profile of Peter Stobie
If you haven't visited the website it gives you more about the book and some fun stuff under Media!
http://www.sleightsofmind.com/

Pete
Jon_Thompson
View Profile
Inner circle
Darkest Cheshire
2404 Posts

Profile of Jon_Thompson
I know what I'm watching tonight!
Mary Mowder
View Profile
Inner circle
Sacramento / Elk Grove, CA
3642 Posts

Profile of Mary Mowder
I just requested it at my local Library.

Thanks Peter, I love Science.

-Mary Mowder
Peter Stobie
View Profile
Regular user
Milwaukee, WI
177 Posts

Profile of Peter Stobie
Mary,

Enjoy! Did you watch the videos on their website? Good stuff!

Pete
Jonathan Townsend
View Profile
Eternal Order
Ossining, NY
26867 Posts

Profile of Jonathan Townsend
...to all the coins I've dropped here
Peter Stobie
View Profile
Regular user
Milwaukee, WI
177 Posts

Profile of Peter Stobie
Jonathan,

Thanks for posting the above threads! I really enjoyed it.

Pete
55john55
View Profile
Regular user
135 Posts

Profile of 55john55
It is a fantastic book. I can't give it enough praise.
funsway
View Profile
Inner circle
old things in new ways - new things in old ways
8328 Posts

Profile of funsway
Quote:
On 2011-06-09 07:54, Peter Stobie wrote:
If you haven't visited the website it gives you more about the book and some fun stuff under Media!
http://www.sleightsofmind.com/

Pete


However -- they do not respond to emails, and one of the authors joined the Café' -- requested questioms and idea -- and then would not replay to PMS

I loved this book also -- and became inspired to explore new concepts of neuroscience -- but now beleive these two did not do their holework propwerly and often overreached themselves.
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst



ShareBooks at www.eversway.com * questions at funsway@eversway.com
Peter Stobie
View Profile
Regular user
Milwaukee, WI
177 Posts

Profile of Peter Stobie
Interesting? Smile

Pete
Mephisticator
View Profile
New user
Canada
61 Posts

Profile of Mephisticator
I thoroughly enjoyed this book and am curious to hear if anyone used it as a springboard to other neuroscience books...
Any recommendations?

Cheers,

Kirk
doriancaudal
View Profile
Inner circle
1519 Posts

Profile of doriancaudal
I am, at the moment, and for 5 days, at the Society for Neuroscience conference (I am also a neuroscientist, in addition to magician),and I met Susana's student, who wrote with her a very nice and elegant study on misdirection that you can find here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles......l=pubmed
Hands-off ACAAN - freely chosen card and number : http://doriancaudal.wix.com/miracaan
Mephisticator
View Profile
New user
Canada
61 Posts

Profile of Mephisticator
Cheers, Dorian. Very interesting article. Any other neuroscience recommendations would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Kirk
funsway
View Profile
Inner circle
old things in new ways - new things in old ways
8328 Posts

Profile of funsway
"The Tell-Brain" is excellent and very readable
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst



ShareBooks at www.eversway.com * questions at funsway@eversway.com
link8822
View Profile
New user
Central Jersey, NJ
66 Posts

Profile of link8822
I recently became a fan of Stephen Maknick because I'm considering psych grad school if possible to switch. He did a nature review article with James Randi, Teller, Apollo Robins & Mac King. You can read it here:

http://www.nature.com/nrn/journal/v9/n11/full/nrn2473.html

(pdf version also available on the side)
MagicJim
View Profile
Regular user
152 Posts

Profile of MagicJim
It is an entertaining read. Used it as a reference for developing a class on attention.
George Hunter
View Profile
Inner circle
1567 Posts

Profile of George Hunter
I recently gave a careful read to Sleights of Mind, and can verify most of the good things already said about it in this and other threads. I learned some things about magic, and even more about the young field of Neuroscience. Several of the field's major insights, such as those around the nature of human attention, are very significant and ought to inform every thoughtful magician and mentalist. From their young field, based on brain imaging, they especially conclude that human beings are incapable of multi-tasking--in the sense of giving priority attention to two things concurrently. They are impressed that magicians have experientially known this for centuries; it is the main reason why misdirection, when well done, is so astonishingly effective.

The study may suffer some from what may be a major methodological flaw. The authors interviewed a dozen or so magicians, and were coached by several, but there is little evidence that they read much of the authoritative literature of magic theory. Why is that a possible problem? Turn it around. If a magician merely interviewed some neuroscientists and wrote a book interfacing the two fields, the neuroscientists would complain that you cannot really know the field without knowing the literature. (If they'd known enough of the literature and history of magic, they might not have praised James the Amazing Randi as the "elder statesman of the American magic community!") Of course, they MAY have read a sufficient range of magic theory but, if they had, they'd have surely cited that, in many cases, instead of merely drawing from interviews.

One of you mentioned that the authors sometimes overreached. Yes, like enthusiastic scholars in many younger fields of knowledge, the authors seem to believe that their field, in its first generation, has at last solved some very long standing, very complex, issues--like whether human free will is real or illusory. (No "spoiler alert" here; you will have to read chapter nine of their book to access their confident answer.)

The authors kind of have it both ways on the "exposure" issue. On the one hand, they say they are not actually engaging in exposure because a "spoiler alert" symbol precedes each exposure! At the book's end, however, they drop that game and essentially admit to extensive exposure, and they say (credibly) that the more people know how magic is done the more they will appreciate experiencing it performed well.

The book is usually an interesting read, and the book's enduring contribution will largely be found in chapters three through seven--in which they delineate ways in which neuroscience helps us understand visual, cognitive, multi-sensory, and memory illusions. I plan to reread those chapters several times.

Overall, it is a commendable read for all magicians interested in the interface with science.

George Hunter
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » The Science of Magic » » Sleights of Mind (1 Likes)
 Go to page 1~2 [Next]
[ Top of Page ]
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2019 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved.
This page was created in 0.16 seconds requiring 5 database queries.
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café
are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic.
> Privacy Statement <

ROTFL Billions and billions served! ROTFL