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Derrn Browns Pure Effect was one of the most thought provoking reads I have enjoyed in a long time. Can anyone tell me about his newer book, Absolute Magic? Reviews and rundowns welcome.
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I am expecting my copy any day now. I will post my thoughts when I have finished it. It seems like, from the description, that it's similar to "Strong Magic" by D. Ortiz. This is one I am looking forward to.
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Quick review:

A very informative, interesting and inspiring book. It really makes you think about your role as a performer.

Beautifuly written, funny, and thought provoking. A great bit of information on Pickpocketing also.

No tricks, but this is worth more to me than 100 great tricks.
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Well I enjoyed this more than Pure Effect, so if YOU like Pure Effect, which you state you did, then you should love this.
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HOw does this compare to Strong Magic?
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I have not read this book but my friend says that he was disappointed because it does not have any actual tricks.
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On 2003-12-30 21:47, playzure wrote:
I have not read this book but my friend says that he was disappointed because it does not have any actual tricks.


That's because it's not a book of "tricks". It focuses on Derren's own model of how magic should be performed.
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I have Pure Effect and I enjoyed that tremendously although I don't actually use any of the tricks written up in there.

It would be nice to know how Absolute Magic compares to Strong Magic though. Has anyone who has read them both like to make a comparison?
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Perhaps Absolute is better from the standpoint that the writer actually employs the ideas and theories he pens onto paper.
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I would agree that Absolute Magic is better than Pure Effect - there are tons of books full of good tricks, but very few that discuss the subject matter covered herein.

Not only is the material thought-provoking, but it is also written in Derren's unique and humorous style.
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Absolute magic is a very interesting book.Although Derren seems to have raised the bar in magic so high that even he does'nt qualify!.He states that he only does his own material these days.Not quite true.One piece he does is the wonderful PK touch's by Banachek.
It is a book worth reading.Some of the humour will not translate very well for American readers though.
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It is a totally underrated book. Every magician should reflect on his thoughts and suggested frame work for what we do.

...assuming they want to perform magic that makes a real impact.


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I have not read this book but my friend says that he was disappointed because it does not have any actual tricks.


That's not a friend.

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On 2003-12-31 14:10, Jason Wethington wrote:
Perhaps Absolute is better from the standpoint that the writer actually employs the ideas and theories he pens onto paper.
Jason


That would make the performer better, not the book, no?
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Mark, did you mean to say that Absolute Magic is better than Strong Magic or are you actually just comparing absolute Magic with Derren's previous book, Pure Effect?
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Strong magic is more useful!
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Markymark, could you elaborate on that?
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Sure...'Strong Magic' is a nuts and bolts approach that
everyone would find something in it that they could use.'Absolute Magic' is about how Derren changed and evolved.He comes at most things [not all] from a mentalist view.Not so much coins or cards or lil red balls!.Best of all is most books from Eugene Burger.
Just my 2 Euro cents...
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Sure...'Strong Magic' is a nuts and bolts approach
Agree.
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'Absolute Magic' is about how Derren changed and evolved. He comes at most things [not all] from a mentalist view.
Don't quite agree. The point of view is that of someone trying to make magic stronger by developing and adhering to a theoretical/philosophical frame. It is more "the big picture" than Ortiz book.
As I interpret it.
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Possibly true.
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Great read. Clarifies the importance of believability in presentations,and much much more.
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"The point of view is that of someone trying to make magic stronger by developing and adhering to a theoretical/philosophical frame."

.....and just that is pretty much what much of this is all about, isn't it?!

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