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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
Let's just keep in mind that we only have her word about the job offers, and they may not be all that great.
Just being a senate page in the first place might have attracted her equivalent job offers down the road. Apparently the page program is very selective ... it only accepts 15 each year. And this part time job pays approximately $26 dollars an hour. That's a darn good wage for a first year university student (as the page in question, Brigette DePape, is). I'd be a little surprised if she gets an offer as good as that.
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
The page is a disgrace to herself and her cause. She should be ashamed of herself. Her irreverence of everything she wishes to reform shows she is no hero. She is a small brained nit wit who should be arrested and charged.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2011-06-05 21:06, balducci wrote: 1. She's a university graduate. 2. I don't think that in her case offers can be measured as "good" by salary alone; obviously, doing something she believes in is important to her. If she makes $20 an hour working for a liberal cause, she'd probably characterize it as a better offer. That being said, if she doesn't have a job we agree is pretty darn good by the end of the month, let me know what your favorite charity is; I'll send 'em a few bucks. I have almost no doubt she'll have more than one great offer to choose from.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On Jun 5, 2011 9:22pm, LobowolfXXX wrote: Hmm. Well, some of the articles appear to disagree. Some say she is a U of Ottawa graduate ... others say that she is a first-year international development and globalization student. According to the guidelines of the Senate Page Program she is supposed to be a full-time student pursuing a first degree: http://www.parl.gc.ca/Employment/Senate/......on-e.htm To be eligible for the Page Program, candidates must: a) Be full-time students pursuing their first undergraduate degree in one of the four National Capital Region universities ( Carleton University, Saint-Paul University, University of Ottawa and Université du Québec en Outaouais );
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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Woland Special user 680 Posts |
Job offers or no, balducci, this youngster knew that she was in absolutely no danger. She was not going to be hauled off to the dungeon. She knew that she would be lauded by the left wing. I would bet you a chocolate milkshake that she enjoyed every moment of her interviews with the journalists who probably warmly encouraged the expression of her misguided views. The fact that she likens her stunt to "the Arab spring" and speaks of "connecting with existing social movements to really help there with this resistance" indicate the extent of her narcissistic self-importance.
And according to The Star, she is not a first year student, but a university graduate, with a degree in "international development." (I forget: is that part of the trivium or the quadrivium?) She has had experience with the anti-G20 protests as an intern with the "Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives Manitoba." (There's that "centre" spelling again!) The CCPA describes itself as "an independent, non-partisan research institute concerned with issues of social, economic and environmental justice." Or maybe not so non-partisan, since the same web page claims that "The CCPA is Canada’s leading organization for articulating progressive, positive social policy reform." It goes without saying that were this bunch actually to come to power, anybody pulling this sort of stunt during the First Secretary's opening Address to the People's Praesidium of the People's Democratic Socialist Republic of Canada would meet a far different fate than this young lady faces. |
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts |
I do have to say from what I've heard about Gurkha's, they are quite bad-ass.
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
Anyway, nice to finally see a forum discussion involving Canada that some of the regulars here are willing to participate in (besides myself and John, I mean).
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2011-06-05 21:30, balducci wrote: You posted three links; 2 identify her as a university graduate, and the other notes that the Senate website identifies her as a 4th-year student. I assume that the most logical explanation is that the Senate website is outdated (which would be consistent with the site that says she's been working there for a year). I would think that the least likely possibility is that she's a 21 year old first year university student.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Woland Special user 680 Posts |
Well, let's just bring up more juicy Canadian news. How about that anglophone NDP legislator mysteriously elected in the heart of Quebec?
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
She's a hero to 1/3 of the people in at least two countries. She's not going to be flipping burgers or collecting welfare anytime soon.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2011-06-05 21:40, Woland wrote: How about those Canucks?! 2-0 already!
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On Jun 5, 2011 9:38pm, LobowolfXXX wrote: I was referring to the various articles I'd read on her at the time, not just the ones in the links I posted. But based on what I've read since then, I agree with you. Apparently she was a first-year student in international development and globalization in 2007, and some recent blog posts deleted the "in 2007" bit.
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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thorndyke Regular user Canada 147 Posts |
Canadian here, born and raised. It should be mentioned to my American friends that the new government is a conservative one, and as such can expect all sorts of grandstanding like this in the next four years. I feel that what she did was an embarrassment, and as such even if I shared her beliefs I would not hire her. She was mentored by Sharon Carstairs, formerly a leader of the Manitoba Liberal party and now a Senator. I doubt that this came up during her interview stage for the Page position. It reminds me of Shiela "Nobody's baby" Copps, a Liberal member of Parliament who used to bring a bullhorn in to work in order to harass the then governing Conservative party. Another move they used was to not show up for a vote because they could not defeat it so they simply didn't show for work (didn't get fired like you and I would, and can still collect a sizable pension on top of it). The bells kept ringing to call them in and they didn't go to work. This is pretty much what I expect of the overly emotional left here in Canada. I can sum them up easily enough; sore losers.
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Woland Special user 680 Posts |
Thanks, thorndyke, those details help. How reminiscent of Wisconsin. I think our discussions of the recent statewide judgeship election have vanished, but the outcome of the Prosser-Kloppenburg race is now final. What a display of sore losing that was . . .
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magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
Like I said, this woman is a disgrace and should be ashamed of herself
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On Jun 5, 2011 10:18pm, thorndyke wrote: Well, be that as it may (though I think you are exaggerating things), the left wing does not seem to be very supportive of DePape's actions. http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper......ory.html Manitoba Liberal Senator Sharon Carstairs, who mentored Ms. DePape as part of her university scholarship program, said her protest on the Senate floor was "unacceptable" and violated the oath she took as a page to respect the procedures and decorum of the Senate. "She is a brilliant young woman and a young woman for whom I have a great deal of respect, but I would not have mentored her to do this," Ms. Carstairs said. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/poli......2048127/ NDP Opposition Leader Jack Layton also disapproved. "I think it’s wrong ... We have been pushing for decorum in the House of Commons. You don’t have decorum if people are standing up holding up signs in the middle of debates and solemn moments. … We encourage protests, it is part of a great long tradition of democracy. But it should be happening at the proper place and at the proper time." Liberal MP Justin Trudeau said DePape had stepped on the "sense of respect and decorum" that goes with a throne speech and he'd rather the protest hadn't happened.
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
Kudos to those elected officials for considering the issue with more in mind than partisanship.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
My favorite Canadian hero is Wolverine. Or Doug Hepburn.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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thorndyke Regular user Canada 147 Posts |
Wolverine all the way!
Sharon still can respect her huh? Sad. I'm wondering when the next pie throwing protester will appear (here or in the U.S.) and will the laws regarding assault be suspended due to the 'importance of the cause or issue being addressed'.I still remember the photograph of (then) Liberal Prime Minister Chretien throttling a protester (injuring him and requiring dental work) and how the media reported it as something amusing. If the current PM (a conservative) did this there would be an uproar and demands for his resignation and arrest, followed by internet bellyaching and Michael Moore weighing in - as he is on this issue. |
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On Jun 6, 2011 12:40am, thorndyke wrote: Chretien grabbed Clennett and pushed him away. Clennett's dental bridge was only damaged when the RCMP threw him to the ground and piled on top of him. Maybe Chretien went too far but also keep in mind, Chretien and his wife were faced with a knife wielding home invader just a few months before this. Frankly, I think Clennett was lucky to get off as lightly as he did. I wonder how he would have fared had he gotten as close, and into the face, of Obama or Bush. Anyway, Clennett did pretty good out of the deal. He parlayed this into a run for political office. And, I suspect, more than a few $$$ Considering how you apparently feel about the "overly emotional left" in Canada, I'm a little surprised you are so upset about Clennett in the first place. The Quebec political party Clennett was (is still?) associated with (QS) is farther left than Chretien ever was ... in fact, the QS has ties to the Quebec communist party (overlapping membership and leaders) and its supporters call it Marxist / anarchist: http://paulitics.wordpress.com/2008/12/0......lection/
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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