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Chris Piercy Special user Dorset, England 932 Posts |
Hi all,
Finally decided it was time to get a CTW and I opted for Steve Draun's Real Man's Wallet. It turned up today and I'm thoroughly impressed with it, my only gripe is with instructions which to me seem to be lacking slightly in relation to the actual load. Is there a knack to it that I'll get once I've practiced some more or does anyone who owns this wallet have any specific tips they'd care to share as at the moment it's taking me up to 10 seconds of pocket fumbling to load the card in. Any help is greatly appreciated! Chris |
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Ed Oschmann Inner circle Lake Worth FL 1038 Posts |
I don't load it using the cop as described in the directions. I use a full palm and load it in my rear pocket. I find it easier, once the hand is hidden behind your body, is to hold the card by the tips of your fingers and thumb at it's short end, and drive it in.
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Chris Piercy Special user Dorset, England 932 Posts |
I think my main issue is aligning the card with the loading slot in the first place, any tips?
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Blindside785 Inner circle Olympia, WA 4573 Posts |
I hear a lot of people use this, I'd be interested in hearing tips as well.
I'm still looking for a CTW because I want to buy one and only one. I think I saw a video of paisa using what looked to be the real man's wallet at the end of his acr. So I think he should have some tips. |
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Chris Piercy Special user Dorset, England 932 Posts |
I bought it because I wanted it to be by every day wallet as well as a CTW and I can definitely it see it fulfilling both needs, just need to learn to load it quicker.
I'll send Paisa a PM |
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Axelchen Elite user Germany 413 Posts |
I use a credit-card as a slide/guide à la Kaps/Balducci, pulling it out a short time before I want to perform. I think it was mentioned in the instructions.
Best regards Axel |
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Chris Piercy Special user Dorset, England 932 Posts |
That must have been an oversight on my part as using a credit card as a guide has quartered my load time.
Cheers Axel! |
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labound New user 82 Posts |
I picked up a real man's wallet a few weeks ago and have been experiencing the same problem. I decided to use my driver's license as a guide. It seems like a natural for the view window and it's hard plastic like a credit card. Quite frankly, still sucking wind at getting it loaded. Figuring it's one of those knack things, so I'll keep working on it. Think my biggest issue is the depth of my back pocket - wallet sits too low in the pocket.
Of another note - really like Mr. Draun's empty pocket display, and have been working it into my chop cup routine. I'm using it to show the pocket empty and steal a final load. No doubt someone has thought of this adaptation before... way too easy and way to good to pass up ~(8 |
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Opine Traveler Veteran user 342 Posts |
These kinds of problems are usually pretty easy to solve with a bit of thought.
Using the driver's license is good. It's smaller than the compartment, though, and can tip (at least in the U.S.). This is more a cosmetic issue than a practical one, and it's up to the user to determine whether it bothers him to open the wallet and see the license cock-eyed behind the window. It always did me. A long time ago, I laminated my driver's license with clear edges that extended out to the sides of the compartment. This kept the license always straight in the window and the clear plastic edges were invisible through the window. I stopped when they replaced the old-style licenses with one that had a mag stripe, as laminating it then could actually cause problems. One can cut a piece of clear acrylic with rounded corners that fits snugly in the compartment so that when pushed in, it's completely invisible, but when pulled out, it makes a very good guide. Most pockets are too deep to bring the opening of the compartment within easy reach when loading. It works best to place something in the bottom of the pocket so the opening of the wallet is actually a bit higher than the top of the pocket. Also, if you're wearing a jacket, you can insert half the wallet into your back trousers pocket, the half with the compartment hanging down outside your pants. Then, the hand with the card goes under the jacket and loads the card UP into the wallet as it pushes the wallet up out of the pocket and comes out with it. There's also nothing wrong with carrying this wallet in a front pants pocket or in a specially sewn pocket inside a coat or vest, which make for faster loading, particularly if this pocket is angled to accommodate the angle of the hand as it approaches. So, like, whatev. |
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Chris Piercy Special user Dorset, England 932 Posts |
Thanks Opine, some great tips I may well add the piece of acrylic as with just a UK license it is still hanging up slightly as I load it in.
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Carducci Special user Denver 543 Posts |
I really wanted my RMW to work. I love my big Balducci wallet but don't always wear a jacket. The problem was my back pocket was just too big for the wallet. It never sat in the right place and always was too deep in the pocket. Even with the DL guide it just never worked right for me. Also, I had to re-dye the leather every other week (maybe I had one from a dud batch)
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Bill Hallahan Inner circle New Hampshire 3230 Posts |
Instead of using a credit card, I used a piece of transparent semi-rigid plastic that I cut to the correct size. A credit card will work just fine though.
Humans make life so interesting. Do you know that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to create boredom. Quite astonishing.
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Chris Piercy Special user Dorset, England 932 Posts |
Cheers Bill, appreciate it
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Mark Jarvis Regular user 172 Posts |
I also use a driver license and load it behind the license by keeping the chamber side closest to my body. This makes for a nice reveal when the flap is opened and they focus on the license first and then I call their attention to the outline of the back of a card behind the license....pulling out the license and then the card turning it around showing their signature.
Always gets a great reaction.
Mark Jarvis
The Magic Of Magic Solon, Ohio The Magic Is In Your Hands http://www.themagicofmagic.com |
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R.E. Byrnes Inner circle 1206 Posts |
"Also, if you're wearing a jacket, you can insert half the wallet into your back trousers pocket, the half with the compartment hanging down outside your pants. Then, the hand with the card goes under the jacket and loads the card UP into the wallet as it pushes the wallet up out of the pocket and comes out with it."
what a cool idea; never considered that |
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MagicTobe Loyal user 259 Posts |
These are all very valuable ideas, thank you guys.
However I have to add that with enough practice I am now able to load the card fairly quick. I think it is kind of a kneck. So use the ideas and tips suggested here but never quit practicing |
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
I think this has Steve Draun's name on it, but it's actually designed by Anthony Miller.
Nice pic here: http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S3204 |
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Doomo Inner circle 2378 Posts |
Hi Zombie, thanks for the mention. Yep, it is my design.
The Real Mans wallet (Steve Draun wallet) was a work for hire I did for Steve. It reflects the wallet he wanted. I have since made a lOT of changes to the basic Real Mans wallet that addressed the issues with the original These are all reflected in the Modifier. Easier loading, easier removal etc. Tony
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warren Inner circle uk 4298 Posts |
Just to make sure I'm reading this correctly the link to the real mans wallet provided by Zombie is an improved version of the one that people are having problems loading that was mentioned at the begining of this thread ?
Also for what its worth I have a Jerry O'connell hip wallet that I use as my everyday wallet which can be loaded really quickly and you don't need a guide at all with it. |
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Jorib Veteran user 347 Posts |
Eric Mason and Martin Breese's Card2Wallet is a very nice combination of the Draun'sRMW and O'Connell's Hip wallet: it loads quickly, doesn't need a guide and the card appears behind a buttoned flap (clear window as RM). I've two of these wallets and one is brand-new.
If anyone is interested.... |
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