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HiveMind
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I'm trying to discover any real benefits of the recent change in the search function. So far I have not found ANYTHING I was looking for since implemented due to excess restrictions.

Anyone else feel this way, or is it just me?

Here's an Idea... try to find that post about Tommy Wonder. You would know which one it was when you saw it but for the life of you...

Or try 3 fly... that one is an illegal search, the words are too short.


I also think limiting it to 3 months is harsh. We should be able to search the whole year I think.
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Magix
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There is a lot of discussion about this in the Announcements thread.

I agree, the new search engine is worse than the old one.
ChrisZampese
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Haven't tried it myself, but as for searching through a whole year, this may be a simple case of too much info causing too much load on the server. A year's worth of posts from the magic Café is a lot of information, and searching that can really stress out a server!
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MacGyver
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It's all in a mysql database. It shouldn't take too long to search....(ok not sure it's mysql, but it is a relational database)
ChrisZampese
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Yeah, OK, just read through the thread in the announcements page, and as far as I can see it is a case of users not really reading instructions. The old search was abandoned because of stress on the server (relational or not, that much data takes a lot to search through).

The only real disadvantage seems to be the fact that you can't always search all posts - you have to search in 3 month blocks.

With your previous search criteria being displayed in a form at the bottom of the results page, it is only two clicks to search a different range of months.....not too bad really for the increase in speed.

Bear in mind that the load on the server when the old search was running caused the entire Café to slow a bit, not just the search part, so really we are all benefiting from this change.
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Mary B.
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Hivemind, 3 fly routine is not an illegal search, and brings up lots of results. So does a search for Tommy Wonder, using exact phrase for both searches, searching all forums in a three month period. As it happens, I wouldn't know which one it was when I saw it, because I have no idea to which post you are referring.

You now are able to search the whole year (unlike the old search where you would only ever get 200 of the most recent posts satisfying your search criteria), you just have to do it in three month increments.

The restrictions were implemented because the old search routines were crashing the server. This was partly due to the immense amount of data to be searched through in the database, and partly due to the way the search routines were coded. We ran numerous tests to give you the most flexibility possible without causing undue strain on the server resources. The restrictions are not harsh, they are necessary.
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