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Magnus Eisengrim![]() Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1064 Posts ![]() |
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On 2011-06-15 10:54, Tom Cutts wrote: You seem to be confusing a short comedy polemic for a documentary. John
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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Tom Cutts![]() Staff Northern CA 5901 Posts ![]() |
Quote: "WE" would know if "WE" just did a little research, critter. Not your typical standard.
On 2011-06-15 22:15, critter wrote: Quote: You gotta love people who make accusations about assumptions and attempt to back them up with their own assumptions. It seems clear to me you have no idea who the guy that shot this video is. You just made an assumption he is Joe Everyday with a day job being oppressed by the man. He isn't.
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critter![]() Inner circle Spokane, WA 2608 Posts ![]() |
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"WE" would know if "WE" just did a little research, critter. Not your typical standard. Okay, by 'your' do you actually mean mine, or is it the 'royal your?' As in 'People in general do not adhere to this standard?' I just want to know if I'm being insulted.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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Marlin1894![]() Special user 559 Posts ![]() |
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You gotta love people who make accusations about assumptions and attempt to back them up with their own assumptions. It seems clear to me you have no idea who the guy that shot this video is. You just made an assumption he is Joe Everyday with a day job being oppressed by the man. He isn't. I'm not trying to back up anything. You made an assumption and you are trying to argue as if it is the stone truth. I said "maybe". Do you understand what "maybe" means? I'm saying there may be possibilities that you aren't even considering. That's what "maybe" means. You have it all worked out in your own mind. I admit I don't know all the facts. That's the difference. |
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Tom Cutts![]() Staff Northern CA 5901 Posts ![]() |
Specifically I typically find and you more attentive to details and research (or occasionally stating you aren't interested in researching) rather than throwing your hands (or keyboard) up and just saying "We don't know.". It's not meant as an insult, just an observation.
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Marlin1894![]() Special user 559 Posts ![]() |
Your probably right. He made the whole thing up. That's "pretty clear".
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LobowolfXXX![]() Inner circle La Famiglia 1199 Posts ![]() |
You just never know where some threads are going to go.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Magnus Eisengrim![]() Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1064 Posts ![]() |
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On 2011-06-16 12:32, LobowolfXXX wrote: There are often obstacles in the path.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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critter![]() Inner circle Spokane, WA 2608 Posts ![]() |
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On 2011-06-16 12:15, Tom Cutts wrote: Okay no problem then. I didn't look it up because I assumed (Yeah, I know about assumptions) that he was just some guy on YouTube. I don't generally find it worth the time to do background checks on YouTube posters. Since your comments, I have looked up the name and found this: http://neistatbrothers.com/neistat-hbo For those who don't know, and because I'm nice enough to share, he has an HBO program with his brother. I still don't know what kind of schedule he has for these videos, but they do seem to be his job which makes him money. Since cameras aren't allowed in the courtroom then it is feasible that this is time he could be using to make videos (read: money) Not a big deal to me either way. The point was just an exercise. I don't really have a lot of emotional investment in this debate. I do think that in this case the cop was being kind of dumb... if the radio guy at the end was correct about it not actually being illegal. But one dopey cop isn't going to turn me into an anarchist or anything. That said, let me now turn to defending Tom Cutts' point. Also for the fun of the exercise. If the radio guy was correct then Neistat may have been able to contest the ticket by mail on those grounds and gotten it dismissed without even going to court. 40 cents is less than the price of a cup of coffee or food for a starving Ethiopian.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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Tom Cutts![]() Staff Northern CA 5901 Posts ![]() |
Bingo!
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gdw![]() Inner circle 4862 Posts ![]() |
Merlin, I don't think saying something is "doubtful" is anything close to arguing something as "stone hard fact."
Also, I think tom may have been that, based on the video, the guy wastes his time, and so it's not worth much.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
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critter![]() Inner circle Spokane, WA 2608 Posts ![]() |
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On 2011-06-16 12:56, gdw wrote: Dude, get a laptop. Your phone's grammar an speling r almost azz bad arse mine.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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stoneunhinged![]() Inner circle 3067 Posts ![]() |
I just thought the video was funny.
I guess I belong in the slow class. |
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critter![]() Inner circle Spokane, WA 2608 Posts ![]() |
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
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Hitlernyan!
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On 2011-06-16 12:34, critter wrote: AFAIK in NYC you always have to show up to court to contest a ticket. You can plead not guilty by mail, but you are then assigned a court date.
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critter![]() Inner circle Spokane, WA 2608 Posts ![]() |
Well it sounds like it might depend on whether this ticket is considered a moving violation. Yes, he was moving, but that doesn't mean it's a moving violation. For example, red light camera tickets are treated the same as parking tickets in NYC.
For a parking ticket, these are the options according to the NYC.gov site: "There are three ways to request a hearing; Hearing by Web (online), Hearing by Mail or Hearing in Person." http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking......te.shtml I am not sure whether these options are available for moving violations, and I am not taking the time to dig. To further clarify: "People who request a hearing by web but do not accept a settlement offer from Finance and are granted a hearing by a judge, will receive that judge's decision via email, as well as by regular mail, provided that the respondent's email is working" I'm not in New York, kind of the opposite, but I have contested a "reckless driving" ticket by mail. It's pretty easy. Edit- Hey, I just figured out what AFAIK means! ![]()
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
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critter![]() Inner circle Spokane, WA 2608 Posts ![]() |
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On 2011-06-16 13:26, landmark wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn-meTlsNrw Just stay away from "Nein-Cat." Painful.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
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gdw![]() Inner circle 4862 Posts ![]() |
What about turning left?
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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critter![]() Inner circle Spokane, WA 2608 Posts ![]() |
Nyan Cat never turns.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
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