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I saw this on American Pickers.

It just goes to show you they don't make stuff like they use to, back when Made in America meant somthing.
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They need to do an autopsy on that bulb after it finally dies. There must be SOMETHING about it that would be good to know.
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Okay, I didn't set this up, but there's a great Bob and Ray routine about this. Bob is interviewing the world's greatest collector of light bulbs. Rare ones of all kinds from historic places and times. But all during the interview, Bob gets fumble fingered and keeps dropping the bulbs, much to Ray's consternation. It's hilarious. Unfortunately it's not on the Internet, but it can be bought on Amazon in one of their CD collections.
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Edison's light Bulbs were made to last when he first made them but I think it was another entrepreneur that suggested they make them last a set amount of time so that people would have to buy new bulbs every so often. This ensures the product can create a demand and a company can make money.
This is a good example of what is going on all over the map nowadays with our throwaway culture.
We have the ability to make things that last but we do not do that for two simple reasons. The product would put itself out of business and or it would not be at a price that people could afford because the business would need to make something on it.
Nothing is "for the greater good" it would seem.
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On 2011-06-16 21:44, Mobius303 wrote:
Edison's light Bulbs were made to last when he first made them but I think it was another entrepreneur that suggested they make them last a set amount of time so that people would have to buy new bulbs every so often. This ensures the product can create a demand and a company can make money.
This is a good example of what is going on all over the map nowadays with our throwaway culture.
We have the ability to make things that last but we do not do that for two simple reasons. The product would put itself out of business and or it would not be at a price that people could afford because the business would need to make something on it.
Nothing is "for the greater good" it would seem.


It would seem that if someone were to market a long lasting bulb (perhaps also making it more "green") then they actually would stand to make a good buck.
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How many 20 year light bulbs can you sell before the market is saturated?
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How many 20 year light bulbs can you sell before the market is saturated?


I'm sure more than enough to live comfortably for at least the next 20 years.
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So there I am with an eternal light bulb that cost, oh say $1800.00 - but it burns forever. But I have to keep it from where anyone can get at it so all my outdoor lights are older types that burn out regularly but are unattractive to steal. Plus after a party I go around the house and find people have switched out my eternal bulbs with cheap ones and I don't know who it was.
where I work we have arguments all the time with what I call energy vampires - people who come into the public areas of the building and plug in their cell phones and charge up. when I try to tell them that the outlet is there for the building workers for the floor scrubbers and the like they get this blank look and then 'female dog' me out as I somehow was the one doing wrong.
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Well I think gdw's point is that if company X sells its one month bulb for $1, then you can probably sell your 20 year bulb for $2 and it shouldn't cost double the one month bulb to make.

It's really just an extension of the quality versus price dilemma. Some will pay $2 for a deck of cards, some will pay $10 for a better cut and finish. It probably doesn't cost 5 times more to make the second deck of cards.
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The whole key to this is to never turn off the light bulb. Cycling the bulb on and off is what causes the filament to deteriorate thru heat and cold. I'd bet that if the bulb was ever turned off it wouldn't light again.

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Keep in mind that the bulb in question has always been quite dim and emits a reddish glow. When Mythbusters examined it they noted that it has an extremely thick filament. It's estimated that it would take five of these bulbs to emit the amount of light released by a regular 60W bulb. For the bulb to burn brighter it would require a thinner filament. And that's the dilemma. The thinner the filament, the hotter it will get, the brighter it will be and the sooner it will burn out.

The bulb, though, has apparently been moved around a bit over its lifetime and, thus, has been turned off on at least a few occasions. In that, and a few other respects, it is a lot like me - not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but one of the oldest.

:eek:

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That lightbulb is on the news frequently in the bay area. The firemen use to toss nerf balls at it until they found out it was deemed important.

As for long lasting light bulbs they have been created and intentionally NOT released because it would limit the purchases of bulbs and that isn't good to the companies that make them.
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On 2011-06-16 21:44, Mobius303 wrote:

Edison's light Bulbs were made to last when he first made them but I think it was another entrepreneur that suggested they make them last a set amount of time so that people would have to buy new bulbs every so often. This ensures the product can create a demand and a company can make money.
This is a good example of what is going on all over the map nowadays with our throwaway culture.

I believe I've read that some of the Edison bulbs were made with much thicker filaments, so they lasted longer.

I did read that the long lasting fire-hall bulb is a 60 watt bulb that draws only 4 watts of power. I'm thinking that would explain a great deal of its extended life.
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Factoid: Did you know the light bulb was a Canadian invention, technically. By Henry Woodward and Mathew Evans in 1874. Who sold the patent to Edison for $5000.
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On 2011-06-18 20:58, Joey Stalin wrote:
Factoid: Did you know the light bulb was a Canadian invention, technically. By Henry Woodward and Mathew Evans in 1874. Who sold the patent to Edison for $5000.


Now is that a real factoid?
Is that ambiguous enough?
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