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M&M Magic Regular user 116 Posts |
What would be a very cool silk/handkerchief routine? I am looking to add some more tricks into my show... Thanks!
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts |
Whether you are a beginning silk worker or a long-time silk worker with lots of experience, I recommend picking up the Encyclopedia of Silk Magic set. It has a lot of very, very good material in it. There is something in there for everyone.
That said, before most of us can answer your question to the fullest extent (at the very least, myself), are you more interested in sleight of hand silk work or are you leaning towards gimmicks to do most of the work? Once I know, I will be better able to help you, with answers more suitable to your abilities/interests. By the way: Welcome to the Café! |
yin_howe Special user Malaysia 981 Posts |
Closeup, parlor or stage?
I find that The Slydini Silks can work pretty well is most situations...
"Talent without passion is talent wasted.."
https://www.youtube.com/user/yinhowe80/ |
M&M Magic Regular user 116 Posts |
Dr_F_Ayala: Thank you for your reference. I will check in to it. I do not really care what kind. As long as the sleight of hand is not too difficult, I am fine with sleight of hand. I do not mind gimmicks either. And thank you! =)
Posted: Jun 23, 2011 9:11am Yin_howe: Stage. I will look into the Slydini silks! Thank you and have a nice day! |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Being your only requirement is a "cool" silk routine. They by all means get Peter Scarlett's lecture notes, perfer his CD version, as more detail may be given in them.
He has a very visual and cool silk routine. http://peterscarlett.com/Magic_Supplies/......_63.html |
M&M Magic Regular user 116 Posts |
Thank You!
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Spellbinder Inner circle The Holy City of East Orange, NJ 6438 Posts |
It is good you are not afraid to work at sleight of hand. It is important to note that sleight of hand will be very important when you finally get around to including doves with silk magic... but that's for later. I urge you to learn sleight of hand versions for as many silk tricks that have them available, such as performing the 20th Century Silks with ungimmicked silks instead of gimmicked silks, or performing the color changing silk with sleight of hand instead of the one that is self-contained; same with Blendo and sympathetic silks both of which have gimmicked and ungimmicked versions. As long as you have the time ahead of you and no fear of sleights, always choose the ungimmicked versions that use sleight of hand and you will have an act that few can imitate.
Do either you or your brother juggle?
Professor Spellbinder
Professor Emeritus at the Turkey Buzzard Academy of Magik, Witchcraft and Wizardry http://www.magicnook.com Publisher of The Wizards' Journals |
M&M Magic Regular user 116 Posts |
Thanks Spellbinder! My brother does Devil Sticks.(He is a beginner) And I am trying to learn juggling. Its not easy at all haha. =) I have been getting into some sleight of hand. I made up my own 3 1/2 min. routine with cups and balls!
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Spellbinder Inner circle The Holy City of East Orange, NJ 6438 Posts |
You should get some juggling scarves for both you and your brother and start with that.
http://www.amazon.com/Juggling-Scarves-s......8&sr=8-5 If you can buy them locally from someone who can show you how to juggle with them, better yet. If you are teaching yourself to juggle, you are probably learning the wrong moves and it will be difficult to unlearn them and relearn the correct way to juggle. Here is a Web site that will get you started juggling the correct pattern. http://www.juggling-for-beginners.com/how-to-juggle.html You will also find other instructions on YouTube. Why am I yammering on about juggling scarves in the smooth as silk section? The skills used in juggling will come in very handy later both in your handling of silks and in your ability to pick up and dispose of various silk gimmicks. You should train with your brother and eventually learn to juggle together (back and forth) if you are going to be working together as magicians. Later, if you work with others as assistants, start by training them how to juggle as well. You don't have to become the world's best juggler (unless you have it in you to really become the world's best juggler) but simply being able to juggle scarves and beanbags will add to your skills as magicians and right now you are both young enough to learn how to do it correctly.
Professor Spellbinder
Professor Emeritus at the Turkey Buzzard Academy of Magik, Witchcraft and Wizardry http://www.magicnook.com Publisher of The Wizards' Journals |
M&M Magic Regular user 116 Posts |
Spellbinder: In face we already have a juggling set that contains scarfs, a book, and balls! =) I do understand where you are coming about, about the skills will help me with silks. I will train my brother & the assistants I will have in the future. Juggling does add to a show! Thank you! Have a nice day. =)
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts |
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On 2011-06-23 20:05, Spellbinder wrote: This is absolutely a very true statement. I prefer the sleight of hand work with silks, which for the beginner and in comparison to most other types of magic, sleights for silks are not really all that hard. That is not to say that they do not deserve dedicated practice to do well, because they do. Once mastered, they will all serve you well. Also, as mentioned above the Slydini Silks (sometimes called Slydini Scarves) routine is a wonderful thing and it does work in any setting. The presentation posibilities are limited only by your imagination, and many great magicians have come up with some really funny and interesting plots for this effect. Just bear in mind that one cannot use regular silks for this - it requires scarves made out of parachute material. This is not only aids the working of the effect, but also for durability. As Spellbinder pointed out, juggling really will help with your handling in sleight of hand silk magic. I do know how to juggle, but only juggle for my own pleasure and fun. I have done juggling in front of the general public (more along the lines of fire juggling with devil sticks and fire clubs, poi, etc.) and it was more a spontaneous thing. I never in my shows because it just did not fit my show styles and performance characters. |
M&M Magic Regular user 116 Posts |
Dr_J_Ayala: Thank you for your input! It is great you know how to juggle! I wish to be very well at it in the future! Thanks and have a nice day! =)
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Spellbinder Inner circle The Holy City of East Orange, NJ 6438 Posts |
Have you tried this one yet?
http://youtu.be/BxwhPIVUskU This combines silk magic with some juggling moves, although you can't see the juggling moves (or if you do, it is not being done correctly!).
Professor Spellbinder
Professor Emeritus at the Turkey Buzzard Academy of Magik, Witchcraft and Wizardry http://www.magicnook.com Publisher of The Wizards' Journals |
M&M Magic Regular user 116 Posts |
Spellbinder: No I have not done this trick yet. . . What juggling moves does it contain?
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Spellbinder Inner circle The Holy City of East Orange, NJ 6438 Posts |
There are several ways you can find out: "Silken Sorcery" by Jean Hugard; "Rice's Encyclopedia of Silk Magic" Volume 2; or you can learn from Fred ( the magician in the video) from the e-Book "Color Change Silk Gimmicks" found in my Dollar Store Magic section - Book 2 on my site. There are probably many other books with the information. You can also buy the necessary gimmick you'll be juggling (Fred teaches you how to make your own) from almost any magic store: they are usually called "dye tubes" although at the Magic Nook, we use the term "color changing silk gimmick" for a device that uses one silk and "dye tube" for a device that works with many silks. You'll also have to have two different color silk handkerchiefs (the juggling scarves will work, but being so flimsy, they won't survive long for this effect).
Professor Spellbinder
Professor Emeritus at the Turkey Buzzard Academy of Magik, Witchcraft and Wizardry http://www.magicnook.com Publisher of The Wizards' Journals |
M&M Magic Regular user 116 Posts |
Thanks Spellbinder! =) What could you please post the URL to your site?
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Spellbinder Inner circle The Holy City of East Orange, NJ 6438 Posts |
The URL to my site is included in my signature below my name. If you get lost on my site, feel free to use the Wizard Search Engine described on the front (home) page.
Professor Spellbinder
Professor Emeritus at the Turkey Buzzard Academy of Magik, Witchcraft and Wizardry http://www.magicnook.com Publisher of The Wizards' Journals |
M&M Magic Regular user 116 Posts |
Thanks Spellbinder! Very cool site! =)
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Leland Inner circle St Louis 1180 Posts |
Slight of hand is tougher to learn but will serve you better down the road.
Life of Magic!
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
I'd like to see someone produce an elephant from a foulard, but that's just me.
The last silk routine that I've added, that I perform regularly, is the Slydini Silks. I use a different routine and handling than other performers I've seen. You have to be prepared to handle the occasional problem when the knot won't budge. |
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