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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Free feel to jump in:
http://www.commondreams.org/further/2011/06/24-8 CEO gets 40 months for ripping off billions, homeless guy gets 15 years for stealing $100.
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JRob Veteran user Central South Carolina 395 Posts |
Funny how the part where the homeless guy acted in a manner so as to make the teller that her life might be in jeopardy if she did not comply got omitted. Suddenly the 15-year sentence seems kind of mild itself.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Could you post a link to an article that contains more info about the case?
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts |
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On 2011-06-26 09:40, JRob wrote: Actually, not to me. 15 years seems kinda severe for essentially scaring someone. I've always thought it quite unfair how white collar criminals who steal tens of thousands of dollars are treated compared to petty thiefs. |
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On 2011-06-26 09:40, JRob wrote: Omitted from where? Where did you read that the teller felt her life might be in jeopardy? She might have been scared, or she might have been LOL-ing at the homeless guy making a fist under his jacket. I like how the homeless guy surrendered the next day ... sounds like the bank executive did everything he could to avoid prison time.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
Hmm. Not much in the mainstream media about either case. This is especially surprising in light of Paul Allen's $3B fraud. Here's a bit of info about the conviction from The Huffington Post.
Roy Brown's armed robbery of a bank got local coverage in Shreveport, but I don't see it in the wider media at all. Apparently he pretended to have a gun, and was handed 3 stacks of bills. He took a single $100 bill and returned the rest, saying that he was homeless. The cases are very different. But the contrast is indeed stark. John
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
One item I read said that his mom said she raised him better than that, and so he turned himself in.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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On 2011-06-26 10:59, rockwall wrote: Twice in 24 hours! Maybe we're long lost twins? Nah, you're prboably right, we're not. BTW we're not talking tens of thousands here. We're talking billions. As in 10 million times a $100. But still, some common ground is a treat.
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts |
Oh yeah?!? Well--you're all just a buncha big STUPIDHEADS--and--and--God's gonna hit ya' all with a great big--uh--uh--STUPIDHEAD HITTER--as BIG as the WORLD!!!
(Hey, this IS an official TROLL thread.)
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts |
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On 2011-06-26 11:23, landmark wrote: I was speaking in general about white collar criminals, not specifically about Paul Allen. I've known of many white collar criminals who steal $50,000, $100,000 who get a slap on the wrist while someone robbing someones home of items worth a few hundred dollars are treated much more harshly. |
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magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
Can someone please tell me what a trollthread is? Also, what is troll? I know the one under the bridge from fairytales but not in the internet.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Troll in this case is about the person trawling for emotional responses and unproductive dialog using social hot-button topics and phrases as a lure.
The world needs bridges and folks to maintain those bridges. That we call them Trolls and tell such tales about them is sad.
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JRob Veteran user Central South Carolina 395 Posts |
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On 2011-06-26 11:00, balducci wrote: When he concealed his hand and demanded money there was an implied threat of harm. That the teller complied indicates that the threat was inferred as a reasonable person would. Now if he he only had his fingers in the till for $100 then I would tend to be a lttle more outraged
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On 2011-06-26 20:41, JRob wrote: I don't think the teller's compliance implies anything of the sort. At least, certainly not necessarily to the extent that the teller felt her life might be in jeopardy as you suggested before. I believe standard policy at most banks these days is for tellers to give the cash without delay, whether they feel threatened or not. Even if the robber is wearing a gorilla costume and wielding a half-peeled banana as a weapon. The above is not a joke, I am being perfectly serious. And for anyone who might go on about posters with a lack of "real world experience" let me say that I've worked in a bank myself, and members of my family have worked in a bank. Probably we (members of my family) have about 40 years of bank work experience between us. And some of us have even been in bank hold-up situations.
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JRob Veteran user Central South Carolina 395 Posts |
I don't think you can just dismiss it either. But if it bolsters political point, knock yourself out.
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
JRob, we were given an example of two crimes and their penalties in the first post.
I guess the question really is, do they seem fair and proper relative to one another to you?
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
I thought a troll was someone who couldn't comprehend Sheenanigans?
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Douglas Lippert Inner circle E Pluribus Unum 2343 Posts |
The poor man implied the threat of taking someone's life. The white collar criminal never implied any threat whatsoever. Even though one guy stole $100 and the other stole $1 Billion...The punishment was spot on for the homeless guy (AND he gets 3 square meals and a nice bed) but not harsh enough for the white collar guy.
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On 2011-06-26 22:05, Douglas Lippert wrote: We still don't really know that for a fact from the story. In any case, he was not charged or sentenced for threatening someone's life. He was sentenced for first degree robbery in Louisiana. "The judge sentenced him to 15 years in prison for first degree robbery." http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/265402#ixzz1QRKpqT6F If he had actually been charged, convicted, and sentenced for making a death threat against the teller in Louisiana, what sort of penalty might he have gotten? Far, far less than 15 years would appear to be the correct answer. Consider, a man in Louisiana was convicted of making death threats against President Obama and that man only faced a maximum penalty of 5 years (on each count). http://www.katc.com/news/new-judge-in-th......esident/
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts |
On the bright side, now he's got food, shelter, and medical care for the next 15 years... minus time for good behavior.
Yeah, that was snark, but only a half-hearted attempt.
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