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Hugokhf Special user 581 Posts |
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On 2011-07-03 22:28, octave wrote: thanks very much BTW I got PS1 and it is a great book, especially if you want to add a bit mentalism into ur act! |
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Josh Chaikin Inner circle Kansas City 1430 Posts |
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On 2011-07-02 10:06, Vlad_77 wrote: Great news, Vlad. Walmart and Target sell tools, too! |
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Vlad_77 Inner circle The Netherlands 5829 Posts |
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On 2011-07-03 23:10, Josh Chaikin wrote: Haha Josh!! And now I suppose you'll tell me they offer classes like "Black and Decker 101" Some might argue that my lack of proficiency with tools makes me a tool. HA I beat those thinking that to the punch. Ahimsa, Vlad |
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Hugokhf Special user 581 Posts |
Along with CC, would you say that ed marlo's Revolutionary Card Technique or the classic collection of larry jennings as must buy??
ps and also art of astonishment |
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bblumen Special user Baltimore 987 Posts |
Marlo's Revolutionary Card Technique is definitely a must have for the serious student.
"Lulling the minds of your company is more important than dazzling their eyes." Ed Marlo
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ftlum Special user Roseville, CA 730 Posts |
Here's my (barrister) bookcases. They used to be available at Office Depot.
I'm still working of filling them up . Click here to view attached image. |
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Leo Reynolds Jr Special user 864 Posts |
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On 2011-07-04 13:18, Frank L. wrote: See you still have some more room? Wow are they all magic books ?Nice very nice. Best Leo |
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*Mark Lewis* V.I.P. 1325 Posts |
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On 2011-07-04 12:52, Hugokhf wrote: Hugo. These books are not for you. Ignore everyone immediately and listen to me and only me. You are 17 years old. You hardly perform for anyone as you have mentioned already. Card College may indeed be good but it is too *** expensive for you. These other books are far too advanced for you and will lead you on the wrong road. You have to learn to walk before you can run. Buy the Royal Road to Card Magic and nothing else for the moment. It is all you need until you get good. It is dead cheap to buy and will be the biggest bargain in card magic for you. It will teach you to intermingle self working tricks with sleight of hand. All this introverted sleight of hand will get you nowhere and you will end up as crap as everyone else on the magic Café. Study each chapter carefully before proceeding to the next one. Don't rush ahead. If you study this book properly and thoroughly and learn how to present your tricks with showmanship by the time you get to the end of the book you will be an accomplished card magician. But you have to find audiences first. I will advise on that as promised once I am in the mood. You will save money and a lot of wasted effort if you listen to me. I understand that you may be a young Frenchman but I will try to put that aside in my mind when I advise you. |
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nooner Regular user 187 Posts |
I agree with Mark Lewis. His advice is sound.
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Vlad_77 Inner circle The Netherlands 5829 Posts |
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On 2011-07-04 12:52, Hugokhf wrote: Hi again Hugo, If you were coming into a shop where I had been a demonstrator, I would ask you a LOT of questions about where you feel you are on the continuum of learning the art. I would ALSO have you PERFORM a few effects for me so we BOTH can get a feel for where you are. From that "interview" I could make a much better informed decision about "must buys." In fact, in the shops that I worked, it was a MAXIM that we NEVER sell ANYTHING to a customer that was beyond her/his immediate skill level. In fact, one demonstrator in a shop I will not name got fired for it! But, even without knowing your skill level, I could provide you a short list right here and now because the following books are foundational texts. I am assuming here of course general magic as opposed to just cards. The Tarbell Course in Magic (8 volume hard bound books, NOT the digital version) Now You See It, Now You Don't by Bill Tarr The Classic Collection by Harry Lorayne (one volume at a time) The New Modern Coin Magic (Hard cover edition as the Dover paperback is incomplete) Strong Magic by Darwin Ortiz Card College by Roberto Giobbi Royal Road to Card Magic by Hugard and Braue (R. Paul Wislon has a GREAT DVD set to accompany the text) The Magic Book by Harry Lorayne The Amateur Magician's Handbook by Henry Hay If it was still in print I would suggest Greater Magic by Hilliard and Hugard In addition, I would suggest when you have the money to get Daryl's Encyclopedia of Card Sleights Similarly I would suggest The Encyclopedia of Coin Sleights by Dr. Michael Rubenstein. Books like The Classic Magic of Larry Jennings and Ed Marlo's Revolutionary Card Technique depend upon your skill level. If you have been into magic only a year, there is NO way I would sell you EITHER of these books. They ARE great books but you must grow into them. If your skill level however proves otherwise, then you would not be asking what to buy; you would know and perhaps ask if the book is well written and well illustrated. The Art of Astonishment books are excellent but I do not believe they are foundational texts. I would also urge you to delve into theory and showmanship resources as magic is first and foremost a performing art. The same holds true for mentalism though I am not qualified to advise what is foundational in that art beyond Annemann's Practical Mental Effects, Corinda's 13 Steps to Mentalism, and T.A. Waters' Mind, Myth, and Magick. But, I cannot say beyond the foundational texts/DVDs I listed what is a "must buy." I would be doing you AND the art a disservice by suggesting something that would frustrate you. I can sit here all day and rattle off great books but neither you nor I would gain anything from the exercise of writing and reading such a list. Returning at last to the list I DID provide, there is not ONE magic dealer that would have ANY issue in suggesting these books/DVDs. In fact Denny Haney's list would be MUCH shorter: The Tarbell Course and the Fitzkee Trilogy. Does this mean that Denny Haney [one of THE most knowledgeable and reputable dealers on the planet] would say that there is no worth in other books? No. But, Denny HAS said MANY times that, "it's all in Tarbell." Note to certain members: I am no longer a demonstrator or a partner in a magic shop, so I have nothing to gain by suggesting these materials - just a FYI. Ahimsa, Vlad PS: OBVIOUSLY I would NOT have you buy them all at once. Either The Magic Book or Royal Road FIRST. |
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Hugokhf Special user 581 Posts |
Hi vald
I have royal road to card magic and also strong magic (i am in around 100th page) as for my skill level, I would say that lower intermediate. not very good at presentation though, that's why I am reading strong magic and see if I can get something from it (I already did actually) I know basic sleights (going through the content of Royal road, the only one that I can't do well is the flourish,the pass, and the palming and also a few more sleights e.g. top control and a few marlo move (by watching malone meets marlo) that's probably my level in magic, not sure what 'level' would you classify as. ps I have learnt magic for more than half a year, a short time, but I practise virtually whenever I am free e.g. when watching TV, surfing the net, listening to music etc. so I would say 2-3 hours in school days and nearly the whole day in holiday, if I am not going out forgot to mention that except those books, I got tons of DVDs. |
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DelMagic Special user 719 Posts |
The Royal Road to Card Magic is a standard that you can't go wrong using. The only thing I don't like about it is the lack of illustrations. Vlad mentioned a general book that I would recommend first to a beginner who wanted to get into sleight-of-hand: Now You See It, Now You Don't. If you really were only interested in cards, there is still enough in there to get you started and the illustrations are very nice. The other material in there is useful for the times when you want a break from cards. There is also a 2nd volume to move on to in the future though it is harder to find.
fThough we are talking about sleight-of-hand card magic, for any beginner I would also recommend a book with self-working material so that you can get into performing and work on your showmanship while waiting for your sleight-of-hand to develop. Unless you are brimming with confidence, which most of us are not when we are newbies, it is hard to get the nerve up to perform consistently if all you are working on are sleight-based effects. There are a lot of books with self-working card tricks and you can't go wrong with most of them. I would recommend Scarne on Card Tricks. The advantage of Now You See It and Scarne's book is that they can be found in many non-magic book sites at greatly discounted prices which can be a great benefit to the aspiring card magician. |
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
DelMagic: Check out some of my books. (For whatever reason!)
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
http://www.harrylorayne.com http://www.harryloraynemagic.com |
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DelMagic Special user 719 Posts |
I have Harry and I love them.
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*Mark Lewis* V.I.P. 1325 Posts |
Hugo. Don't worry about presentation. I will show you how to do that when I am in the mood. But first you have to find an audience. THAT is the most important thing above all else. And I will show you how to do that too. In fact I have just started to do that on the ambitious card thread.
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ftlum Special user Roseville, CA 730 Posts |
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On 2011-07-04 13:18, Frank L. wrote: Here's some close-ups of the books, for those who wanted to see the titles. http://www.flickr.com//photos/27554551@N......19/show/ I think I got the "book bug" when I first started learning magic. Some of the earliest books I got kept referring to moves in other books, so of course I had to get those references ! To make things worse, it was not unusual to run into (quoted / referenced) books that were out of print. You can really pay through-the-nose on eBay for some of these magic books. Those 2nd hand Elmsley books, for instance, were not cheap. So nowdays, I don't chance things going out of print for the most part... hence the ever-expanding collection. - Frank |
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helder Inner circle Portugal 1065 Posts |
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On 2011-07-05 01:22, Frank L. wrote: Great collection. Helder
My version of Eddie fetcher "Be Honest What's it?" it's available at Penguin Magic
Check my Facebook group: Mentalism Secrets Email: heldermagico@gmail.com www.facebook.com/heldermagico |
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Nate Green New user Working my way past 75 Posts |
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On 2011-07-05 01:22, Frank L. wrote: Frank, Nice collection! You are so right about paying through-the-nose for out of print books. My copy of Uncanny Scot wasn't cheap, but what a great book! Regards, Nate |
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Phil Pearce Loyal user Dallas, GA 260 Posts |
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On 2011-07-04 13:18, Frank L. wrote: Wow. Those bookcases are impressive. Home Depot? Do you know approx. how much they are? Wow. That collection is impressive, especially the series. Congratulations on a very fine magic library. The collection is a LOT more impressive than the bookcases, but the bookcases are awesome. A Phil |
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nooner Regular user 187 Posts |
Frank - That collection is priceless. You have a copy of every book that I have ever wanted with many more that I never heard of.
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