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David Regal has always put out exceptional magic to our community, and this is no exception. This is a quality piece of magic, the chain is very high caliber, not cheap looking at all. Using something personable, "their ring", I believe gives this greater impact when you do the reveal. The DVD is very well done as usual, he explains a number of vanishes and all can be done flawlessly with some practice.

Thank you David, for this effect. Fun to do. There is no better critic than my wife and she loved it !!!

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The Wizard Guys reviewed the ring chain, and in the body of the review David Penn actually performs it! This was the first time I ever saw someone other than myself do it, so I got a big kick out of it (and David does it very well). You can see it here:

Ring Chain Review

The review starts at 19:00.
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Alan's fooled me, so of course I bought it. David's did not fool me (of course it is not intended to be a magician fooler although much of his magic does fool me) and although fairly priced was not in my budget at the time. I am sure Alan does his all the time and has great success with it (and it fooled me) but the method will not be practical for me in the long haul. I suspect I will be purchasing David's at some point.
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The chain looks like it's big enough to pull over your head to take it off without taking it apart. It would have been nice if you could take the chain off as a complete loop with the ring threaded on...looks way too obvious as there's no need to take the chain apart to remove it.
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Harv, you need to think of the neck chain in the same manner as a card to wallet...but in this case the card is a ring and the wallet is a chain.

With card to wallet, the hand with the palmed card is, to the audience, an empty hand. Some people can't get over that hump: "Are you telling me that the method for card to wallet is to put the card in the wallet?!?" It doesn't sound like a "method" at all. That is why a lot of no-palm card to wallets are sold. It's because of a mindset, not because palming is less deceptive - it is in fact the best method.

Imagine if I were to show you two empty hands, then unclasp my neck chain and reveal your ring hanging from the center. It would be a miracle. Well, that is what is happening in the minds of the audience with the ring chain. Just as with card to wallet, the guilty hand is, to the audience, an empty hand. Unlike card to wallet, with the ring chain the guilty hand can actually be shown as "empty." This is a plus.

If one where to imagine a version of card to wallet where the performer showed the audience the palmed card, then stuck that hand into his jacket and pulled out a wallet, there would of course be no effect. But by concealing the card the effect is one of the best that can be done with playing cards. Concealments work. The ring chain is based on a vanish, a concealment and a placement. Cups and balls is nothing but vanishes, concealments and placements.

Elsewhere on the Café I describe how one can use a ring hank to vanish the ring, which makes the vanish self-working, provides total cover, and allows you to pocket the ring before anyone knows it's gone. After the ring vanishes the hands are truly empty. For some people that will be preferable way to go. In fact, using a hank to vanish the ring makes the routine play bigger, so even sleight of hand guys may opt to go this way.
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I follow your line of reasoning David and I really have no problem at all with palming whether it's a card, a coin or a ring. My only concern is that there's no need to take a chain apart that's obviously big enough to take off by pulling it over your head. As I mentioned in my last post, if there was a way to do the dirty work and take the chain off to reveal the ring without looking as though the chain had been taken apart....that would be a miracle!
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Harv, I think you'd like Alan Rorrison's neck chain more, as it emphasizes the penetration element, and it's a magician fooler.
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David-

Your new Regal Ring Chain looks magical and stunning - and the moves (at least based on the demo and seeing it on the WPR) look totally justified.

With all respect Harv I think your may be dissecting this a little too much.

I grew up in a family Jewelry store my entire life, waiting on customers...and it is completely normal to unfasten a chain when taking it off - nothing odd about that- no way.

As a matter of fact pulling a chain over the head to take it is what might seem odd to some - by pulling it over the head it can get caught in hair too.

But I agree with David that you should look at Rorrison's chain as it may work better for your needs.

That being said, David chain is on my short list of must have items Smile Great work David and Mazel Tov with a beautiful new item.

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David

I met you in Chicago when you where lecturing at a Ring meeting. I was there with my teenage daughter. She still talks about the show and the marshmallo chop cup. Take care.
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On 2011-08-12 20:35, saysold1 wrote:

With all respect Harv I think your may be dissecting this a little too much.



Thanks Brett...no argument there and I'm not criticizing the effect...I think it looks very good. The only way to guage the response is to try it out....this is on my wish list.

Harv
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99% given by Craig on the review, I don't recall any other effect ever getting a 99%, wow, that is amazing.
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On 2011-07-12 14:44, Cameron Francis wrote:
You look NOTHING like Woody Allen! I'm a huge Woody Allen fan and a huge fan of yours but you guys are apples & oranges both in looks and in style.

Yes, nothing like Woody Allen, but perhaps Egon?:

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So I'm the only person who think this looks really obvious?
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IDK, seems to look fantastic to the spectators where I have performed, Doug!

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As David has stated, it''s not meant to be a magician fooler.
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Doug - You can read my full comments in this thread, above, but the ring chain is based on a vanish, a concealment, and a placement. It's no more obvious than cups and balls, which is based on vanishes, concealments and placements. What you are buying is a chain that is specially gimmicked to allow for the fast introduction of a ring onto a chain, much as a card-to-wallet prop is gimmicked to allow for the fast introduction of a card into a wallet.

Watch the Wizard product Review where they talk about the chain - David Penn does it on camera, and he does a great job. His vanish is good, his concealment is good, and the gimmicked chain handles the fast placement.

Wizard Product Review

The ring chain bit starts at 19:00.
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This is what a working, paid magician dreams of, easy to carry, easy to perform, easy to accept amazing reactions.
Why we have taken the magician foolers to such extremes, I do not know, how many perform for only magicians, how many perform for the general public.
I am not a full time working pro, I am an amateur part time ,paid magician, and I care about the public's perception, I'd have to think that the full time pro thinks the same way, I learned a long time ago, to look at it from a spectators view,.
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This got Worker Of The Week on the Wizard Product Review and David Penn, as expected, performed it beautifully. I thought the lads were going to be luke warm on it and prefer ring flight. Craig gave it 99%, David 90%.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eux803LZD8o

I got lucky and a good friend gifted this to me, which he got direct from David. It's a wonderfully crafted prop. I've been wearing since I got it. Talk about being able to do magic at a moments notice! This is a miracle ready to happen, cleverly disguised as a high end neck chain.

This actually required only about a page of written instructions. Bud David made a DVD that covers everything, in great detail. If you were hesitant because it requires a basic sleight ( a vanish ) with David's detailed instruction, not only will you be able to do this right away, I think it would get you excited about doing sleight of hand. I like gimmicks and use them. I also love the feeling of doing basic sleights and the impact it has on spectators.

I'll give the basic routine I do ( I'll keep it short and you can fill in the blanks ). I have my own ring on the chain, which is around my neck, under my shirt. I get them to remove their ring and hold it in their open right hand. I undo the clasp and remove the chain and place my ring into in their open left hand. I put my necklace back on and clasp it.

I take their ring and hold it in my open right hand ( now we are mirroring each other ). I tell them to place my ring in their right hand and close their hand. I do the same thing with their ring, into my left hand. My right hand is now shown clearly empty.

I tell them on the count of 3, open their hand and something magical will take place. When we open our hands, they still have my ring, but theirs has vanished.

A little patter and...I remove their ring from my chain and I take mine back, on the chain it goes, back around my neck, ready for next time.

I LOVE what David has created here. This chain now is around my neck everyday, ready to go.

I got it as a gift, but would have been just as happy if I had bought it.

http://davidregal.com/uncategorized/the-regal-ring-chain
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Thanks Clarke!

(BTW, I have two of them!)

Jim
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J-Mac, seeing the quality, I understand getting an extra. I think I wear mine so I don't lose it.
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