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Keith Brock
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For some reason I can't perform a pressure fan.

Something isn't clicking when I keep on trying to do one.

Is there a great resource to pick up that will show me some tips?
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There was a whole thread on this awhile back. Some pretty accomplished card guys owned up to not being able to do a pressure fan. The fact that it's so glibly treated as a "basic" flourish in most instructional materials only adds insult to injury.
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I hate to say it, but a great pick me up resource is Youtube. Just because of the instant gradification of a visual aid. I personally can not do one, but found a grea alternative (sadly on youtube).
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The encyclopedia of card flourishes has a very good description of how to accomplish the pressure fan, and tons of other fanning techniques as well.
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I'm having problems too..

The cards fan nicely, but at 'the end' I can't hold on to the cards and maintain a nice cirlce shaped fan..
It feels like.. fingers are in the way.
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I learned how to do it after reading the Encylclopedia of Card Magic, well sort of. I spent two months fanning, squaring, and repeating the process every chance I could. It sounds so easy in most of the books, and so I was determined to do it. Start by just getting the basic moves down, then fan the cards face up to practice getting the right pressure. When all of the cards are visible you've got it, then its just a lot more repeating to create the muscle memory.

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On 2011-07-13 11:03, Keith Brock wrote:
For some reason I can't perform a pressure fan.

Something isn't clicking when I keep on trying to do one.

Is there a great resource to pick up that will show me some tips?


Do one of the following:

1. If you learned it from a book, purchase a DVD to see what you are missing. Or vice versa.

2. Go to a convention/lecture/magic shop/club to find someone that can give you one on one advise.

3. Put it on video so we can see it and spot what you are doing wrong.
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On 2011-07-13 11:03, Keith Brock wrote:
For some reason I can't perform a pressure fan.

Something isn't clicking when I keep on trying to do one.

Is there a great resource to pick up that will show me some tips?


I've found that the harder I squeeze the deck while fanning, the smoother is goes.
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For $7.95 the video from Dante King is a great resource! http://www.thetrickery.com/full/download......6987.htm

This is the one that I was able to learn it from. It is brutal on cards so prepare to go through a few decks while learning it. I still don't do it often because I care too much for my cards. LOL
I usually do a thumb fan. It looks almost as good and does not kill my cards.

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I am having the same problem too.
Just the thumb fan took me 2months to be able to do it, and I am still very dodgy at it.
I think fanning is the hardest technique in most of the basic beginner magic book
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I can do it, but it took years of on and off practice. It was "okay" but it took a long time before I felt it was good enough. The thumb fan took me about ten seconds to nail. Some things come easily to some people, but the pressure fan wasn´t my best friend Smile
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It's all in the squeeze. Xtreme beginners has a whole hour devoting to basic fanning, including the pressure fan. Check your starting position, practice squeezing the cards and gently "spring" them off the tips of your fingers, as singularly as possible and move your right hand in the correct arch. To me, it mostly depends on the squeeze (the pressure) you put on the cards. Once the knack is acquired, it is simple and can be done with almost any deck. Just the sound alone makes it worth learning, not mentioning the fact if done properly, looks far better than a thumb fan in my opinion.
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Check out The Art of Card Manipulation by Jeff McBride V1
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Kingman: Thanks for the reference to the Dante King video, which I downloaded. Now I too am able to do a pressure fan (after only twenty years of trying). It's actually a beautiful move but, as you say, ruinous on the cards. -Alibaba
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Jeff McBride's Art of Card Manipulation Vol 1 helped me with mine. I still have trouble getting past the halfway point though, but I've found it useful to strengthen the fingers.
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You might try practicing your pressure fan with an Aviator deck rather than Bicycle or Hoyle decks. I learned to pressure fan using Bicycle decks back in the 1960's, but I think that the finish on the Bicycle cards that the U.S. Playing Cards Company produced back then is different from the finish they use today today (whatever that finish is). The current finish makes the cards stiffer, almost emulating a plastic coating, and making pressure fans more difficult.

I also find that breaking the cards in by springing them helps to make them easier to pressure fan. Fanning powder will help, too. Fanning powder makes a brand new deck actually _less_ slippery so that the cards fan be fanned better. (I know that sounds counterintuitive, but I think you will find it to be true.)

You might also try the cards that are sold for card fan productions, like the Nielsen cards. They are thinner and consequently more pliable. Take a look at Norm Nielsen's pressure fan at about 10 seconds into this youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVNWdp-gnwU

Because Norm is using one of his special decks for card fan productions, the pressure applied to the cards looks more extreme than might be experienced when pressure fanning a deck of, say, Aviator cards.

I learned to pressure fan from Henry Hay's _The Amateur Magician's Handbook_. I was surprised and flattered when I had a session with Barrows Mussey/Henry Hay in Germany and, when he saw me make a pressure fan, he said to me, "You do that better than I do." Considering that I learned it from his book, it seemed like an ironic compliment.

I should point out, too, that in the beginning you might be able to make only 1/4 or 1/6 of a fan because there is a knack to how the right hand rotates as the cards are sprung into a fan. A lot of people seem to have a problem with the thumb of the right hand jamming into the palm of the left hand as the fan is made, preventing the fan from being completed.

I hope this helps.

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BTW, looking at Norm's performance again, it does look to me like he uses clubs and spades exclusively as the cards he produces. John Bannon mentioned to me when he was writing up his routine "Play It Straight!" in his first book _Impossibilia_--that card manipulators prefer to use clubs and spades because the pips--and especially the indices when a one-hand fan is made--show up with greater contrast in a card manipulation act. John's example in his book uses hearts as an example, and hearts or diamonds in a close-up routine would be no problem. But from a stage, black pips and face cards would be easier to see. In my own performances, I do prefer to make sure that in each stock of cards to be produced, black pips outnumber the red ones--and especially for the front card of each packet.

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Where can I find the Encyclopedia of Playing Card Flourishes for sale? I would prefer a physical book rather than an pdf. I tried Ebay and Amazon, there wasn't anything for under $250.
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I use to have problems with the pressure fan. My thumb fan was excellent and almost 100%. But I just couldn't get the pressure fan, for years I would work on it from time to time but the cards would not fan out they just clumped I tried several different ways of holding the cards or start angles. I knew it was similar to springing the cards which I also had no trouble with. I finally decided I was going to figure out the secret. For me it turned out that all though I could spring the cards I was springing them off my thumb. I switched to springing off my fingers and after a few hours practice I went back to trying the pressure fan to my supprise the card were fanning out and after a few more hours I got it down. The cards must spring from you're fingers as you move you're hand. The practice I spent springing the cards off my fingertips is what worked for me.
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