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fib Inner circle 1535 Posts |
Sugar Rush is great. Props are great. Visual is great. Get it.
--------------------------- Rattled prop is unpredictable -- but may improve with performer constant use. But prop should work first time every time. |
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10798 Posts |
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On 2011-07-15 17:37, fib wrote: I had the same issue with my Rattled gimmick - one was perfect and the other doesn't reset. This is a known issue as apparently some gimmicks went out that are not made correctly. Call your dealer as I did and they will send you a brand new working unit(s) at no charge. This is a precision piece and it will not break in apparently.
Creator of The SvenPad Supreme(R) line of aerospace level quality, made in the USA utility props. https://svenpads.com/
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fib Inner circle 1535 Posts |
Thanks!
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Pastor Mickey New user Colorado 97 Posts |
I had the same problem with both of the caps I received. The dealer sent me out two new ones right away and did not ask for the original ones to be returned. That is the good news. However, only one of the two replacement caps worked properly. So now I have 4 caps with only one that works. Seems like there might be a significant quality control issue. The gimmick that does work is wonderful and I love the idea. I'm not going to ask for another replacement because I'd just feel like a pest!
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PHSIS Veteran user Kailua-Kona HI 385 Posts |
Dear Pastor Mickey
You deserve to have both caps working perfectly. So please do not be shy about getting your free replacement. All the new Rattled's be made now should be fine. If you have any problem with this please contact me at: Janet@paulharrispresents. Many thanks, Janet |
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jazzy snazzy Inner circle run off by a mob of Villagers wielding 2109 Posts |
Wow, there's no better customer service than that. Very impressive!
Good for you Janet.
"The secret of life is to look good from a distance."
-Charles Schulz |
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Pastor Mickey New user Colorado 97 Posts |
Janet,
Thank you so much for your response. Several people have spoken about your extraordinary customer service, and I they are right. I will contact the retailer one more time. Thank you again, Mickey |
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Bendy Special user Columbus, Ohio 518 Posts |
Sugar rush is a cool idea. I have it, but haven't put it into a routine just yet. ...But it's cool.
Rattled is flipping brilliant. Just brilliant! And I haven't been this excited about a gimmicked effect in quite some time. I do, however, have two problems with it. First: The foreign coins. To me, it just seems to scream 'gimmick' to use foreign coins among American crowds that have likely never seen and would certainly question a coin from India. Even if they think it's the coins, not the caps, it brings too much attention to the possibility of gimmicks and not enough focus on the magic that's happening. Of course, I'll be purchasing 'special' American coins to use...but it kind of bugs me that I have to do that with a new effect. I'd be willing to pay more to be able to do this with American coins the day it arrives. Nothing too major there, I guess; just a personal preference. The other issue is that both of the caps take more pressure/force to lock than seems to be suggested in the instructional DVD. In fact, one of the caps takes considerably more pressure/force than the other. I certainly cannot do any routines where locking of the gimmick in the hands of my spectators is required. Neither of the caps in the set I have will lock in a spectator's hand or even on a close-up pad; particularly the one. It requires a flat, hard surface. Fleshy hands and/or a close-up pad just aren't hard/rigid/strong enough to engage the lock. I will definitely use "Rattled," but I'm restricted from using it in a few of the manners demonstrated on the DVD because the locking mechanism just won't allow for it. I'll contact the retailer I purchased the illusion from. Perhaps I have one of the earlier sets. |
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theboywonder Loyal user Scarborough, Ontario, Canada 228 Posts |
I agree about Rattled. It is great, but doesn't "lock" everytime fir me. I've just modified my routine to accommodate . . .
It would really be quite tragic
if the world had to do without magic! |
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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
I've read more than a few reviews of Rattled and I'll be darned if this isn't the first time I noticed that it uses coins from... India?! Odd but why didn't I notice that before?
Bendy I must agree that this is indeed unusual and the coins would certainly be suspected by spectators. Not that there is anything about a foreign coin that should be considered suspect, but it is so different from what American spectators normally see that it will undoubtedly stand out to many. Thanks! Jim |
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MeetMagicMike Inner circle Gainesville Fl 3504 Posts |
Rattled uses any coin that will fit in a bottle cap. Quarter, Nickel, Dime etc.
Yes they supply you with one foreign coin because it has a certain quality that is needed for some of the routines. I'm sure this is to keep the cost down. You can purchase a properly gimicked coin in any denomination from many magic dealers. Guys, if something is too tight it will generlly loosen with use. So push, pull, push, pull etc etc. Still too tight? Sand paper (fine grain). Be careful. If you make it too loose you might have a problem. Probably a bit of transparent tape in the right spot will tighten it. I haven't had to do any of this on my Rattled but it's pretty standard maintainance for gimmicks. |
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10798 Posts |
I just received my replacement cap from Ellusionist and it works perfectly. Both caps now require VERY little pressure to set. Kudos again to Ellusionist and PH (and Janet) for standing behind their product. Good people.
BTW I did the monte routine yesterday and the person said they "felt" the coin popping into their hand when I placed the cap their - and I did pull on the fingers as Dan shows on the DVD. Maybe I pushed to hard, or who knows. I still think this is a winner.
Creator of The SvenPad Supreme(R) line of aerospace level quality, made in the USA utility props. https://svenpads.com/
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Bendy Special user Columbus, Ohio 518 Posts |
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On 2011-07-20 03:22, prestopresto wrote: I'm sure it was to keep costs down. And since I don't have any routines that use those properly gimmicked coins, I had to order a couple. I'm hoping the heavier, American coins will work the same. But it irks me just a little that I can't put the gimmicks to use the way I would like, (and in one or more of the performances suggested in the DVD). I would have been happy to pay $15 - $20 extra to get American coins included in the trick so I don't have to wait to utilize this clever item. It is my opinion that the Indian coins will draw attention to the objects being used when they would otherwise be above suspicion; which means you can't use this particular illusion as demonstrated and taught until you obtain specially gimmicked coins that aren't the ones that come with the props. Again, no real big deal...just personal preference. Quote:
Guys, if something is too tight it will generlly loosen with use. So push, pull, push, pull etc etc. Still too tight? Sand paper (fine grain). Be careful. If you make it too loose you might have a problem. Probably a bit of transparent tape in the right spot will tighten it. I haven't had to do any of this on my Rattled but it's pretty standard maintainance for gimmicks. My problem here is that when something is new, it should work. After use, most things wear out. When it's new, MOST things should actually work better. Otherwise, won't your performances suffer until it's broken in? That's not right. I think Rattled is fantastic. I would just like to have the option of American coins for extra money at the time I place my order, (or to have been notified prior to ordering it that it contained foreign coins so I could maybe purchase appropriate coins at the same time I placed the order for Rattled). I'm also of the mind that a new trick should have gimmicks that work properly. ...I don't think either of those things are too illogical on my part. |
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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
@prestopresto: Thanks for the info!
@Bendy: I agree with you completely. I was on the fence about Rattled, mostly because with a limited budget for my magic props I had to decide between this and a few other excellent new products that hit the market around the same time. Plus I never carry a water bottle around with me and there isn't a lot of justification for using bottle caps otherwise IMO. "Here, let me show you something with these bottle caps I just happened to have in my pocket" seems to scream "Prop" at first blush. The foreign coins is a complete surprise to me. I wonder why that isn't mentioned in any of the promos or reviews? Not to say I won't pick it up down the line sometime. Maybe when someone is selling it in the For Sale forum. Thanks! Jim |
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Bendy Special user Columbus, Ohio 518 Posts |
The dealer I purchased 'Rattled' from is shipping replacement caps out to me. If I get caps that work as they are shown to work in the instructional DVD, in conjunction with the 'special' American coins I ordered a couple of days ago; this will be a powerful illusion, indeed. ...I'll post again when I get the replacements.
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts |
Just a quick idea:
1. Turn one cap mouth up and very cleanly place a mag****c nickel ] with a dime under it in the cap, with the nickel side facing the audience. 2. Turn the cap upside down on a table top. The audience will hear what they assume is the nickel fall onto the table top. Have a spectator move the cap back and forth and she'll hear and feel the "nickel" (actually the dime) move under the cap. 3. Turn the second cap mouth up, appear to place a second nickel (a real one) in that cap, turn that cap mouth down on the tabletop, have the spectator move that cap back and forth, and she'll hear and feel what she assumes is the second nickel. 4. Tell the audience that you will invisibly remove the second nickel and magically throw it under the first cap to join the other nickel. 5. Snap your fingers over the second cap, snap your fingers over the first cap, and explain that the magic has happened. 6. Ask the spectator to move the second cap back and forth and she'll feel nothing under the cap. Have her lift it and she'll see that the second nickel has vanished. 7. Ask the spectator how many cents should be under the other cap if the vanished nickel has magically joined the other nickel. She will say ten cents. 8. Tell the spectator that she is right, that there is now ten cents under that cap, and you slowly lift it to reveal a dime. Larry P.S. - For all I know, the idea sucks. I came up with it while sitting outside in 90° plus weather with my brain frying! It's hard to make "cents" in this heat! |
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jerdunn Inner circle 1735 Posts |
Larry,
Thanks for posting a good idea! Cheers, Jerry |
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PHSIS Veteran user Kailua-Kona HI 385 Posts |
Hello there
Re the coins from india. Most of the Rattled routines suppled do not require any special coins. They were suppled so you could practice all of the variations. In most cases a line of patter can be used to make sense out of the india coin. Would have loved to supply a special coin for the UK, canada, US, Japan, etc but very few would buy the set at this price. Will see if we can work out a deal with Murphy's to start offering these coins at the time of purchase though. We really do try to do everything possible to make the most people happy. Always appreciate your comments and ideas. Janet |
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tvbobby New user 83 Posts |
[quote]On 2011-07-21 23:14, Larry Davidson wrote:
Just a quick idea: 1. Turn one cap mouth up and very cleanly place a mag****c nickel ] with a dime under it in the cap, with the nickel side facing the audience How can you a dime under a magnetic nickel into a cap and have the audience NOT see the dime... if, in fact, the dime is going to fall to the table? Please explain. (Because I like this routine very much, I'd just like to understand the beginning. Thanks!) |
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts |
Simply hold the cap mouth up but tilted a bit towards yourself, and place the nickel ] with the dime under it in the cap, with the nickel side towards the audience. With the cap tilted towards you a bit, the audience can't see what you actually placed inside. Now quickly turn the cap mouth down on the tabletop and you're good to go. Hope I made it clear.
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