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Kim
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What has happened to this forum.
Mark Boody Illusionist
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Simple, lack of civility.
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M.L.
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D.D.
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Kim
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On 2011-07-17 07:18, Mark Boody Illusionist wrote:
Simple, lack of civility.


I wasn't asking what has happened, The post title and the post was basically one sentence.
In other words,its sad what has happened to this forum.
Kim
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On 2011-07-17 10:52, Matthew W wrote:
D.D.


BBbbbzzzz. Wrong answer.
While it is obvious what the answer is, it is not DD.
Thanks for playing though. I hope you enjoy your consolation prize.
Matthew W
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No, pretty sure its D.D.
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Don hit the nail on the head
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Kim
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On 2011-07-17 12:32, Matthew W wrote:
No, pretty sure its D.D.


No, positive your still wrong.
But again,thanks for playing!
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On 2011-07-17 12:45, silking wrote:
Don hit the nail on the head
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Of course he did.
Matthew W
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No, I'm right.

D.D. left because he doesn't want to share a forum that's not his. All his 'loyal followers' went with him.
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Its amazing how the instigators on this fourm have been in augments with other magicians in other fourms on this site.On the other hand I have only been in augments with 3 people in all the years I have posted on this and other other magic fourms.All three instigators I speak of post in this fourm...and these three are in augments all the time in other fourms here on Magic Café.And other magic fourms I'm sure.One has been banned from most magic fourms out there...this one included...kinda follows a pattern dosen't it.

I have so many magic fourms friends and REAL friends all over the USA I really don't need to bother with three arrogant A.H.now do I ?

I rest my case...

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On 2011-07-17 13:37, Matthew W wrote:
No, I'm right.

D.D. left because he doesn't want to share a forum that's not his. All his 'loyal followers' went with him.


Three strikes and your out.
He was sharing it quite well. And he was sharing his knowledge as well.
You can't say all his followers left because I am here.
Enjoy your consolation prize.
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LOL. Knowledge. And no, as soon as M.L. came, D.D. posted he was leaving.
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On 2011-07-17 16:44, Matthew W wrote:
LOL. Knowledge. And no, as soon as M.L. came, D.D. posted he was leaving.


Yes,knowledge. You might try gaining some sometime. All your doing here is trolling.
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Don really must learn to spell. What on earth is an "augment"? And a "fourm"? These can't be typos since one mistake has been repeated three times and the other four times. This really is a sign of a riff raff carnival man of dubious educational standards rather than an upper class intellectual type like myself.

As for this forum being quiet I WANT it that way. In the past too much information has been given out without my permission concerning the pitch business. Don hasn't told you that in the grafting business it is considered highly unethical to give away the secrets of the business to people who have no right to know anything about it. It is on an even worse level than magicians giving away the secrets of their tricks because in this case livelihoods are involved. I have found that he has started people off in UK venues making life difficult for me as well as places in the US. Will Roya is now working places that he shouldn't be because of Driver. And it is ironic that Roya has come back to bite Driver where it hurts.

You don't give away valuable information that can interfere with me making a living and expect me to just stand back and help it happen. When I advertised my Svengali and mouse books I made bloody sure there was no business information in them.

A good grafter keeps his business SECRET and does not discuss his methods on public forums or produce DVDs about it. This is a SECRET art and it should be kept secret from wannabees who take up venues and make supplers run out of stock.

There are forums all over the internet for all sorts of things. Show me a pitchman's forum where other products apart from magic are discussed. It doesn't happen simply because REAL grafters know it is agains their interest.

Despite this I do let nuggets of information out once in a while without using lower class carnival language and my spelling is immaculate. Be grateful for what morsels I give you.

But don't blame the silence on this section on me. I can't control or stop other people coming here and yapping. I am not going to bloody well help them either.

And it is a bloody awful way to make a living anyway. I should know if anyone does. And Don knows it too. That is why he has sold out. Purely to make money from his DVD and on that DVD and on here he pretends that the grafting business is "fun". It isn't. It is hell on earth and Don knows that just as well as I do. The difference is that I am not afraid to warn you all about it. He wants to make money off the backs of other people who are trying to make a living so of course he doesn't tell you this.

And don't believe the crap he gives you about not getting into "augments". He is known in the business as one of the most bad tempered pitchmen around and has been getting into "augments" every day he has been on the joint.

And I happen to know that he has struggled to make a living his entire life and has been broke for about 50% of his career. Is this the guy you want to learn from?
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I don't really think it matters if the "secrets" get out there Mark, as most people that try this will end up failing anyway - even if they owned both Don's DVD and your book. And even if they could make it work, they will most likely want to move on to more profitable products like kitchen knives.

But I do agree it is a bloody awful way to make a living ... I hate it ... I much prefer street performing. I can make the same money and I don't have to buy product or pay rent.

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DonDriver
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You have been hounding me for many years like this Mr.Lewis...you are a very sick person.
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And you have been hounding me for years by interfering with my business. Joe Joe is right to a degree and I used to console myself with what he says in the early days of Driver's DVD. But then things got out of hand with too many people purchasing it and a tiny percentage using the information. Sure, most people gave up but a few didn't and they are the ones who are interfering with my business. They are taking up venues that are no longer available to me unless I use my ruthless methods of the past to free up those venues. Lucky that I am now a mellow senior citizen and indulge in such wickedness on a less frequent basis nowadays.

And then all the yapping on this section about stuff that should be kept secret was the last straw for me. Especially as the yappers didn't know what the hell they were talking about. The blind leading the blind.

And yes. Street performing is far easier than grafting. I know one guy who tried both and he said that selling magic was, much, much tougher.

And quite recently, famous Svengali pitchman Charlie Falcone's son appeared somewhere on the magic Café and said for seven years he sold Svengali decks for his dad. He admitted it was sheer torture and would never do it again.

Why the hell would anyone buy a DVD and subject themselves to torture? And it isn't even effective information either.
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