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Abrakid New user 5 Posts |
Does anyone know of an impromptu gypsy thread routine, one that has no setup?
I did see a magician perform a routine like this years ago. I was just wondering if anyone else knows of one. |
Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts |
There are a number of versions that are quick to set up, and I know a lot of different ways to do gypsy thread, but I have never seen one that is totally and truly impromptu. If you will forgive me saying so, you are probably remembering a bit differently. Having seen it performed so long ago (however long that may be), it may have seemed impromptu at the time (or even now), but it probably was not. Again, that is based on my long-time working knowledge of the gypsy thread.
If anyone on the Café knows of a previous version that is completely impromptu and can correct my above statement, please do! I hope this information is useful to you. |
Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5444 Posts |
None that I am aware of is totally impromptu! That would be magic!
The closest I know of is Mike Wong's "Dragon Thread". It is not impromptu in that a special type of thread is required; however, it has the least amount of set-up and re-set time of the versions I know of. You can see Mike perform it at: http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/275 I suspect that this handling is what you are remembering.
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts |
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On 2011-07-18 17:42, Harry Murphy wrote: Very true! Quote:
The closest I know of is Mike Wong's "Dragon Thread". It is not impromptu in that a special type of thread is required; however, it has the least amount of set-up and re-set time of the versions I know of. I was hesitant to list it as such in my previous post, but I agree with Harry that Dragon Thread is the closest you can get to impromptu. |
Michael J. Douglas Inner circle WV, USA 1645 Posts |
I can't remember much of the details now, but I believe it was David Williamson that had one printed in a magazine. The handling was shared with me some time ago, and it was quite convincing when performed.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
The New Stars of Magic, published by Tannen's years ago, did have a sort of impromptu Gypsy Thread Routine. It used thin yarn or floss thread. Once the pieces were prepared, you could do the effect over and over with the same thread. I have it somewhere; have not looked at it in years.
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motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6127 Posts |
I would say the closest is Richard Hatch's version because of how the thread is prepared. Doesn't rely on the normal method. It's in the March 2007 of MUM and on the DVD "Friends of Roger Klause."
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magic.mind Loyal user 247 Posts |
You can work a way, but what´s the point? Try to find cleanless in the effect rather cleanness in the procedures to create the astonishment
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RS1963 Inner circle 2734 Posts |
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On 2011-07-18 20:25, motown wrote: Richard's method of setting it up is a very good way to do it. But it's not any more impromptu than the standard methods of setting it up. Richard does have a small variation in how he prepares the effect. |
Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Off the top of my head... Take piece of thread, break it up into many pieces. Wad it up. Shuttle pass for an unbroken lump. etc etc. Seated? Think Slydini.
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts |
Pete has a very good idea, but no matter which way you look at it, this simply cannot really be done as a truly impromptu effect. You still would have to prepare a section of thread to switch in for the torn bits. There are a lot of ways to do that, both sitting and standing, it just depends on your situation! I am sure if you take the idea from Pete and run with it, you could come up with a lot of ways to fit multiple, various venues/needs.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
How about the rope trick where you tie a bunch of loops and cut 'em. What's it called? The Many Cut rope?
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts |
I think Daryl has a version like that on one of his sets of lecture notes. I think I have seen it from a few other performers as well, but I cannot recall the exact names of any of them.
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Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
Th trick wmhegbli refers to above in Tannen's New Stars of Magic is this one by Max Londono....."Eternal String"....
Nice version with good photos... http://www.hanklee.org/xcart/product.php?productid=6031 |
Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Isn't that almost the same as "Dragon Thread" ??
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts |
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On 2011-08-01 18:47, Rainboguy wrote: Quote:
On 2011-08-01 20:34, Pete Biro wrote: Essentially, yes. I think Dragon Thread goes a little more in depth as far as ideas and applications. If you have one of the two, you can pretty much gather the method of the other - they are that similar. |
motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6127 Posts |
On 2011-07-18 20:25, motown wrote:
I would say the closest is Richard Hatch's version because of how the thread is prepared. Doesn't rely on the normal method. It's in the March 2007 of MUM and on the DVD "Friends of Roger Klause." [/quote] Richard's method of setting it up is a very good way to do it. But it's not any more impromptu than the standard methods of setting it up. Richard does have a small variation in how he prepares the effect. [/quote] Yes, I think is a little more impromptu since it doesn't require something extra to set up the thread.
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makeupguy Inner circle 1411 Posts |
I had a version YEARS AND YEARS ago that would have qualified. It used a "fake break"... you mimed the break.. and used a clicking of the fingernails to get the sound of the thread breaking. The rest of the routine and the restoration was very much like the original Gypsy Thread.
It was moderately effective... and since I was only about 15 when I came up with it.. it showed my fellow magicians in the local SAM ring 21 that my brain didn't like to stay in the normal magician's box. I sold a few of them to a dealer.. not sure how it sold in the shop. |
RS1963 Inner circle 2734 Posts |
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On 2011-08-01 22:18, motown wrote: Richard's method of setting it up is a very good way to do it. But it's not any more impromptu than the standard methods of setting it up. Richard does have a small variation in how he prepares the effect. [/quote] Yes, I think is a little more impromptu since it doesn't require something extra to set up the thread. [/quote] It's really not much different from the way Marconick's setup was that is often used. It does take less time and nothing extra unlike the way Pat Conway's was set up. I don't think it even takes that much less time than Al Bakers setup for the effect. |
tryphon New user Florida, USA 51 Posts |
Tarbell Volume 7 has an impromptu Hindu Thread routine. There is a very small preparation involving a pin, but I believe this could be omitted fairly easily.
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