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Xcath1 Inner circle 3131 Posts |
I agree with Lumberjohn and others an absolute worker.
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Andrew Zuber Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 3091 Posts |
This is an excellent use of thirty bucks. The routine won't let you down.
"I'm sorry - if you were right, I would agree with you." -Robin Williams, Awakenings
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
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On 2012-01-08 01:26, Andrew Zuber wrote: Or buy the original by Keith Bennett for a third of the price.
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Slide Special user 533 Posts |
Or just watch the demo video and save yourself $30. Is this for real? Come on folks, the method and moves are obvious to anyone who has spent even a small amount of time around cards. Not that it isn't a nice effect. But for $30 I would expect to see 50 more tricks wrapped inside a nice book.
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
BillMcCloskey, many people aren't familiar with the work of Dr. Krenzel, Treveor Lewis and Harry Lorayne. This would be eye popping magic ( it is ) to them. Most magic released is bought by people new to magic ( or that are easily fooled as myself ).
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Waterloophai Inner circle Belgium 1370 Posts |
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On 2012-01-11 18:18, BillMcCloskey wrote: Indeed... |
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lumberjohn Special user Memphis, TN 626 Posts |
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On 2012-01-11 18:18, BillMcCloskey wrote: Yes, just watch performance videos for all the effects you like, crib the presentations, and then reverse engineer the methods without paying the creators. Good thinking. |
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7030 Posts |
My thoughts exactly, LumberJohn. But the other mistake is that just because you watch a video and "think" you know all of the presentation and moves, a lot of times people who just copy demos miss out on important psychologic tips and subtleties which are explained in a product. Not to mention outs and alternate handlings.
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Slide Special user 533 Posts |
Lumber, there was nothing in the presentation that I particularly liked. If I was to add this effect I certainly wouldn't do it as presented. The method is as old as the hills. so for me ancient method + bad presentation = zero worth.
BTW, if you can find the "creator" I'd be happy to pay them, although I think he's been dead for about 100 years. What this says more to me is the sad state of magic where people no longer are familiar with the literature because they don't read books. |
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fyi2 Loyal user 291 Posts |
Cameron has it spot on. I am working my way through it this month. Maybe next month tweak the performance, but I think it is NOT about what is new, but it is $30 to sit down with GT and learn a very polished and road tested routine.
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Slide Special user 533 Posts |
My biggest problem with the effect is that there is no justification for putting the card back in your pocket. (or removing them from your pocket either). It just screams gaff and switch. The whole purpose of a 3 card monte routine is that all the cards remain in plain sight at all times. If you were really doing this, the card wouldn't go back in the pocket, it would be thrown on the table. It is a fatal flaw in my opinion.
Personally if I'm going to spend $30 on a monte routine I'd buy Daryl Does the Full Monte. A lot more value for the money and you are actually doing a real 3 card monte routine. It may take more practice, but it is a lot more satisfying. |
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Slide Special user 533 Posts |
By the way, for those interested, the basic effect (and method) was published by Gregory Wilson in his 2-Card Monte, Plus routine which can be found Harry Lorayne's Best of Friends Vol III page 502.
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
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On 2012-01-14 10:12, BillMcCloskey wrote: I think you'll find Keith Bennett's routine pre-dates this. If you're going to start referencing sources please be more thorough with your research.
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Kozmo V.I.P. 5482 Posts |
I wonder why producers and artists don't like to show the entire routines in trailers? Na I don't really wonder. If you see it and then go out and use it, it's stealing someone's work, period! It's no different than seeing it live and then going out and doing it. So the question is, are you one of those guys? AMEN right?
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karlito New user 60 Posts |
I have to disagree, This trick has always gone down well when I've performed it. If you pace it right then nobody even thinks about the cards going in the pocket. Also cards going into the pocket are motivated throughout the routine
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
Here's where you can buy Keith's (near identical) original routine. It's 1/2 the price of SUM.
http://www.zauberzentrale.de/shop/Sparte......net.html
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Michael Dustman Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 1231 Posts |
Well...to each his own. This routine has been getting great reactions in my strolling gigs. Seriously underestimated the crowd reactions this would get. I love carrying this on me everyday...so much so, that I just received two more card sets from Garrett. Now I have a set in my close-up case, work briefcase and a set to carry in my jacket pocket everyday.
And to say there is no justification for a card going back to your pocket, one has to assume you didn't watch the full performance. But hey...it is what it is. |
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Sammy J. Inner circle Castle Rock, Colorado 1786 Posts |
The main problem I have with Stand Up Monte is that every morning when I get dressed, I want to find a shirt with a pocket. That way I can carry this with me!
I am NOT much of a card guy, and will never be. To me this routine has brought such great reactions that I don't want to leave home without it. I think that for a guy like me the visual teaching is a must. Kozmo did a great job of producing this DVD. Cheers! Sammy
Sammy J. Teague
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Magikraft V.I.P. 58 Posts |
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On 2011-08-05 18:50, Woodfield wrote: I haven't seen Garrett Thomas's but I understand it can be done in the hands, which is very useful. Queenie needs a table. -Martin Lewis |
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AdamChance Special user 656 Posts |
This is really a great routine.
my four best tricks right now in no particular order are: stand up monte invisible deck chop cup quantum bender that's my A list material. I've got a lot of tricks, and most don't make the cut... but this is one of my go to effects. I pretty much use garrett's routine... but I've made a few small changes. for example, when the last card changes at the end, I use a double lift. just so that it's not the same move over and over again. but I've had mostly great reactions from this trick. the only time I get bad reactions is from the type of person who really doesn't enjoy magic and just tries to figure out your tricks. so when I ask where the money card is, they just guess the opposite of what they should be guessing... but that's pretty rare. there have been two times now where the spectator has sworn that the card literally changed in their hand. they'll say "i even snuck a peak underneath the card before you put it in my hand, and it was the card, and then it changed in my hand". |
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