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Who saw the TV show last night and what do you think?
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Jim, What was the show called?
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Banachek? He is wonderful for Mentalism... unless theres been a MASSIVE change in his persona in the last 48 hours? Can someone explain?
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Think he's talking about ABC BEYOND BELIEF: Psychic Power http://abcnews.go.com/nightline/beyondbelief

Beyond Belief: Banachek on Nightline
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Is it kind of exposing psychic phenomena ???
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To answer your question: YES.
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On 2011-08-17 09:54, Rick Maue wrote:
To answer your question: YES.

Seconded 100%
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Yes and no, more of the latter lately.
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Banachek was, is and will be good for mentalism.

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Jim, isn't this show airing tonight? The ad I saw said it airs "Wednesday at 10/9 Central".
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On 2011-08-17 10:39, Lior wrote:
Banachek was, is and will be good for mentalism.

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Absolutely. I agree.
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Getting rid of phoney psychics who defraud the public is always good for magic, beginning with Houdini and currently with Banachek. Bravo, Banachek!
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On 2011-08-17 10:50, Spellbinder wrote:
Getting rid of phoney psychics who defraud the public is always good for magic, beginning with Houdini and currently with Banachek. Bravo, Banachek!


Good for magic?

Why and how?
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On 2011-08-17 10:50, Spellbinder wrote:
Getting rid of phoney psychics who defraud the public is always good for magic, beginning with Houdini and currently with Banachek. Bravo, Banachek!


Good for magic?

Why and how?
Nothing's good with exposure even if it's to expose fraudulent psychics! By getting rid of fraudulent psychics by exposing their techniques, what about thoses of you called psychic entertainer or mindreader, etc. ???

Don't you think it can affect your work ?
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As it was with Houdini, the only folks who ever seem to have a problem with it are the phony psychics.

I think Banachek, by clearly drawing a line between entertainment and fraud, benefits mentalists everywhere.

Where it gets a little grey is with psychic entertainers, the folks that don't prey on widows with expensive and personal conversations with their recently deceased husbands, but rather converse with strangers, and offer services for entertainment only.
...............for such entertainers, I thought Banacheks language was a little strong in places.

That was my opinion on last nights show.........there is apparently more debunking to come. My opinion might change if he starts debunking mentalists and entertainers

We shall see.
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Is Banachek good for mentalism?

This has to be a yes given his work and reputation, take him out of mentalism and there is a very large gap.
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On 2011-08-17 10:50, Spellbinder wrote:
Getting rid of phoney psychics who defraud the public is always good for magic, beginning with Houdini and currently with Banachek. Bravo, Banachek!


So where do you stand on phoney psychics of the past? People who wrote many of the textbooks of mentalism for years to come. Robert Nelson for example. Many of the activities of these phoney psychics were the bread and butter of past mentalists.
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The fact is, No matter how much anyone tries to "defraud" a belief system, those who truly believe in it, will continue believing, and those who doubt will convert. People more often than not, choose to believe in what they WANT to BELIEVE to be true, not always what IS actual, ABSOLUTE truth. Which is then a never ending debate of what is actual, absolute truth...
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We had a similar show here in Australia where he exposed several book test methods. I mean, why???

I have no problems with exposing fraudulent psychics, but there are much better ways than exposing their methods, while at the same time bulldozing through the careers of several mentalists who work with high levels of professional integrity.

So, just based on my experience with this TV program, I would question his approach and his level of thoughtfulness toward his peers.

You want to educate people to differentiate between truth and false? Promote the seriously unknown and underdeveloped theories outlining the unity between science and religion. This and only this can educate the masses against naivity and promote a more rational approach to mystical realities

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I would guess that Jim is uncomfortable with anything on television which touches on the authenticity of the type of effects he and others use in the mentalism branch of magic entertainment.

Penn Jillette talked about this a little bit during a segment on NPR yesterday. He believes that part of the elegance of magic is in the trickery while his friend David Blaine believes it is better if the audience has just a little doubt about whether it was a trick or real. Both approaches obviously work for each of them.

It has been said here before, but if you believe that something on You Tube or television seriously undermines your ability to entertain an audience, you probably need to take a closer look at yourself before blaming something outside of yourself.
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I don't think it matters if he exposes a few "psychics." Even if he exposes a couple of techniques, he's contributed so much to mentalism that he still comes out in the black.
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