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Andy Gemini
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Hi Guys

I have been studying card magic as my 'introduction' to this wonderful hobby but I am interested in most forms of magic and I am thinking of delving into the world of sponge balls.

Just wondered if anybody has some great advice for a newbie? I am thinking of buying Steve Dacri Spongeball Toolbox as the reviews I have read make it sound ideal for a beginner. Have any of you guys learnt from this?

Look forward to hearing from you sponge ball masters!
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I highly recommend Brad Burt.
He is an excellent teacher and his sponge ball DVD is really all you will need and a little creativity of your own.

http://store.nexternal.com/shared/StoreF......49683785

By the way I do not work for Brad Burt or have even met him.

I also extremely recommend Pat Page's Secret Seminar of Magic with Patrick Page Vol.5- Sponge Balls DVD:

http://murphysmagiccommunity.com/forum/t......ge-balls

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Andy Gemini
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Thanks Gary

I have had a look, they both look excellent.

Hmm, as always, choices, choices! LOL
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Agreed, Goshman has nice balls.
I have two sets, 1 1/2 inch regular, and 2" super soft. I like the big and soft balls.
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There are lots of other great sponge ball video resources available, such as the World's Greatest Magic - Sponge Balls DVD, Ben Salinas has the Encyclopedia of Sponge Ball Magic, there is a video by the King of Spongeballs himself, Albert Goshman, called the Life and Times of Albert Goshman which also includes other things from his act and there is the Steve Dacri Sponge Ball Tool Kit. All of these are excellent resources for beginners!

I hope this information is useful to you.
Andy Gemini
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Thanks for the info guys, I will give it some thought.
I have been thinking about buying Spongeball Toolkit for some time, so may start with that and see how I go.And I will certainly use Goshman balls, as advised.

Thanks again
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Andy,
Many Sponge ball resources out there. They provide an opportunity for great interaction. I am partial to World's Greatest Magic, which has several different routines - helps you develop your own routine without copying another routine directly. Also a number of booklets out there that are very good. Run a search on this forum and you will find many recommendations.
Good luck!

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I must also add, without the intention of overloading you with choices, if you can find the book called the Encyclopedia of Sponge Ball Magic by Frank Garcia, get it. That book is one of the classic tomes on sponge ball magic and there is lots of very, very good material within its covers and it was even praised by Albert Goshman himself. That should say a lot.
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Yea, I hear Frank Garcia's book is easy to find and get, really inexpensive.
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While it is not for everyone, I found Jay Noblezada's Sponge! to be quite a good introduction to sponge balls for me. I use his routine all the time and it kills. Also, the DVD comes with a set of 2" Goshman super soft sponge balls.
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As Gary mentioned above, get the Patrick Page DVD on Spongeballs. Tons of great ideas, methods, routines, technique.

The nosebleeda DVD teaches bad magic. Worst of all, it calls itself "the last word on sponge balls".
Wow. Got a lot of balls to call it that when it's full of mistakes and poor technique.
Not that a beginner would notice.

It's a shame it gets noticed thru heavy marketing and kewl sunglasses when these wonderful routines do not...

john carney's routine in "Carneycopia". A book that everyone should own, anyway.

Scott Guinn's routine teaches all sorts of good ideas, methods, etc.

Carl Andrews also has a great routine.

Chris Capehart's unique routine on his kid's DVD (not just for kids)
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On 2011-08-19 10:58, Frank Starsini wrote:
The nosebleeda DVD teaches bad magic. Worst of all, it calls itself "the last word on sponge balls".
Wow. Got a lot of balls to call it that when it's full of mistakes and poor technique.
Not that a beginner would notice.


I quite agree - avoid the Noblezada DVD - especially as a beginner. Maybe once you have gotten all of the basics down and you have a good, solid routine and handling with the sponge balls, then you might look at it for the effects. Either way, I think it is terrible and not only does it teach bad magic, but bad technique as well - again, especially for the beginner.
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On 2011-08-19 13:57, Dr_J_Ayala wrote:
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On 2011-08-19 10:58, Frank Starsini wrote:
The nosebleeda DVD teaches bad magic. Worst of all, it calls itself "the last word on sponge balls".
Wow. Got a lot of balls to call it that when it's full of mistakes and poor technique.
Not that a beginner would notice.


I quite agree - avoid the Noblezada DVD - especially as a beginner. Maybe once you have gotten all of the basics down and you have a good, solid routine and handling with the sponge balls, then you might look at it for the effects. Either way, I think it is terrible and not only does it teach bad magic, but bad technique as well - again, especially for the beginner.

I believe I winced when he said "let me show you how it works" as a lead-in to his next sequence.
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The good news about the NoseBleeda sponge ball DVD is that it's not as awful as his shell game DVD.
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David Stone has a good routine using spongeballs.
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Andy Gemini
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Im glad I asked now as the Jay Noblezada DVD was one I was thinking of getting, think I'll get the toolbox for now.
Thanks guys.

By the way, are all Jays DVDs to be avoided then? Get the impression you guys don't rate him too highly!
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On 2011-08-20 05:30, Andy Gemini wrote:
Im glad I asked now as the Jay Noblezada DVD was one I was thinking of getting, think I'll get the toolbox for now.
Thanks guys.

By the way, are all Jays DVDs to be avoided then? Get the impression you guys don't rate him too highly!


I cannot speak for Jay and his personality as I have never met him or seen him iperform in person, but most of his material is, at least to me, worthless and poorly taught. Just as an example: He has an effect that is sold as an instant download (the name escapes me) but it is basically an effect found in the classic Mark Wilson book. It uses a piece of rope where you form a small loop with part of it and show how long it would take to thread a loose end into the loop, then you proceed to quickly penetrate the rope inside the loop. It is akin to threading a needle. His handling and presentation is terrible and the whole outfit is poorly taught - the book does 10 times better at teaching it.
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When I was growing up, Steve Dacri was the guy who was performing sponge balls on the talk shows and doing it well. He showed me how the magic should look. So when I put together my routines, he was a major influence. I even recorded one appearance on a talk show and reverse engineered everything, and had a routine to be proud of. I imagine that The Spongeball Toolbox would be a great starting point.
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If you want to learn a tried and true complete spongeball routine with full script, you may want to get my new book and DVD, The Book of Destiny. The routine is taught in detail in the book and performed and explained on the companion DVD. That's just one of 44 chapters.

The book ships October 10, 2011

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On 2011-08-20 19:25, Larry Barnowsky wrote:
If you want to learn a tried and true complete spongeball routine with full script, you may want to get my new book and DVD, The Book of Destiny. The routine is taught in detail in the book and performed and explained on the companion DVD. That's just one of 44 chapters.

The book ships October 10, 2011

Larry

I'm not sure about that.
It's not that I don't think your sponge ball routine is good; indeed, I've never seen it.
I just don't think a performer should use scripts developed by another magician.
Because it uses another's humor, another's mannerisms, another's way of speaking, it fails to mesh with the rest of your performance, and can lead to a robotic scripted performance.
To OP, if you decide to go with this, consider changing the script, if only to make it yours.
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