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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/29......879.html

So what are Republicans, non-union workers and the unemployed supposed to do this Monday???
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Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the USA
Sure was a good idea
'Til greed got in the way.
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Get a job.
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I for one have chosen to work that day at double time and a half. This will put my hourly wage almost up to the non holiday level of said union workers who are banning the republicans from being in the parade.
On this labor day, those of you who are getting an extra day off and are going to places were people are working to serve you, please be kind.
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And in other shocking news, The Three Little Pigs decided not to invite The Big Bad Wolf to dinner.
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Guilt By Association: It's OK When It's Not One of Us. Catchy.
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Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Tough call. On the one hand, I agree with Lobo that it's never right to lump everyone in an entire group together as "the enemy." On the other hand, I kind of think the sponsors shouldn't be forced to include someone they don't want to.
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On the other hand, I kind of think the sponsors shouldn't be forced to include someone they don't want to.


Oh, I agree. That's not necessarily the other hand.
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I should amend my "never" statement when it comes to groups as "the enemy." After all, I can think of a few groups I wouldn't want any members of at my bar-b-q. It's MOSTLY wrong to lump everyone in a group, etc., etc.
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I'm one of them. I'm a contract worker and am a few hundred hours short of being able to receive holiday pay. So I'll be at work.
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Guilt By Association: It's OK When It's Not One of Us. Catchy.

From the article: "Council President Randy Radtke said in a statement on the group's website that politicians are only welcome at the festivities if they have demonstrated support for workers' rights."

So clearly, the issue was not guilt by association, but guilt. And last I looked, it was called Labor Day, not Anti-Labor Day.

Perhaps, folks can look up the origins of Labor Day--and why in the US, unlike the rest of the world, it's held in September.

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Guilt By Association: It's OK When It's Not One of Us. Catchy.


So clearly, the issue was not guilt by association, but guilt. And last I looked, it was called Labor Day, not Anti-Labor Day.

Perhaps, folks can look up the origins of Labor Day--and why in the US, unlike the rest of the world, it's held in September.

Well, Canada does the same. And Labour Day is celebrated in October in New Zealand and parts of Australia. And so on.

Historically, Labour (or Labor) Day in the U.S. and Canada actually predates the creation of the International Workers' Day (i.e. May 1 holiday).
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On 2011-08-30 21:04, LobowolfXXX wrote:
Guilt By Association: It's OK When It's Not One of Us. Catchy.

From the article: "Council President Randy Radtke said in a statement on the group's website that politicians are only welcome at the festivities if they have demonstrated support for workers' rights."


The group that was specifically not invited was "the Republicans." Amusingly, almost the next statement says, "It is not a political event."

Of course, you certainly might take the position that all Democrats demonstrate support for workers' rights and all Republicans oppose it, so it's a perfect correspondence.
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The group that was specifically not invited was "Republican politicians," not "Republicans." The positions of the politicians are a matter of public record. I don't think they are checking other people's parties at the entrance of the parade.
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The group that was specifically not invited was "Republican politicians," not "Republicans."


I was just quoting the guy's statement.
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No big deal. These guys just keep making things worse for themselves. One of these days when Congress does away with Labor Day alltogether it will be because of things like this.

The Mayor of Wausau has told the organizers of the parade that they can pick up the tab for insurance, setting up the stages, police etc. I'm sure they will, it's a pretty small parade. I think the said the whole cost would be a couple of thousand bucks.
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I think we should have a retirement party for the big unions, say thanks and move on.
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Unbelievable, but believable.
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It wasn't (isn't) my intention to knock organized labor as an institution. Or to suggest that a lot of important things haven't come out of the labor movement. At just about all these sorts of holiday events, though, groups put aside their political differences and invite their local representatives. As a journalist, I've covered many groups and special events; some of those groups were very anti-Democrat, and some of which were very anti-Republican. I don't think I've never been involved with one where the idea of not inviting one's political opponents to a community event was seriously considered. Even with vehement opposition to their views on organized labor, some of those uninvited officials no doubt better represent some of the union workers' views better than their Democratic counterparts on a variety of other issues, be it abortion, gun ownership, or any of a number of other issues. I think it's a classless decision. And I do think that the statement that it's not a political statement is laughable.
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http://www.wlsam.com/Article.asp?id=2274627&spid=

WAUSAU, Wis. (WLS) - The Marathon County Labor Council has reversed a decision that excluded Republican politicians from participating in the Labor Day parade in Wausau.
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