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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts 
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Up to the individual, Lance. You'll know it when you're doing it without thinking about it.
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Jeff Christensen Regular user 181 Posts
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I agree...without thinking about it, casual and if you can do both of these then the gap is going to be so small as to be not noticed. Try to make it too small and you might end up adding something to the moment that causes your spectators to take notice.
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FrenchDrop Inner circle I can name that tune in 1647 Posts
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Wouldn't you have to think about it to know you're doing it without thinking about it?
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
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Vlad_77 Inner circle The Netherlands 5829 Posts
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I am guessing that the Tosca under the bridge dweller is long gone, but I wanted to comment on the beauty of actually dropping cards during the shuffle! I wouldn't argue of course that we should or even CAN do that everytime, but, let's face it, most speccys simply cannot shuffle anyhow, but the dropping of a card or two during the shuffle (Simon Lovell calls such cards deserters
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And before anyone asks, no, I don't THINK about dropping cards and really I don't get the point of how much is too much of an injog. IF you ARE thinking about it however and that injog is too small and you are performing, you are in serious trouble if you miss. Why take chances? Just shuffle! It's a casual action on your part. This feels like the never ending debate of whether the brief on a second should be tiny. Ahimsa, Vlad |
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FrenchDrop Inner circle I can name that tune in 1647 Posts
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I've been wondering if I could find a way to "accidentally" drop a card during a shuffle, have it land face-down on the table, and eventually turn out to be the selected card. Or have an indifferent card fall out face-up, say "If that's your card, then I did that on purpose," get a laugh, and put it aside face-down...*then* have it turn out to be the selected card. "Are you sure this isn't yours?"
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
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Dr. JK Inner circle Sandusky, OH 1191 Posts
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I guess this thread has been resurrected. I appreciate all the responses. I think some got the [wrong] idea that I am having difficulty with how far to injog. I was just curious how everyone else did it. I think I'm in line with what everyone else is doing. I typically just do it without looking, so my spectators rarely look at it either. Thanks for the insight everyone.
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Vlad_77 Inner circle The Netherlands 5829 Posts
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On 2011-10-17 00:22, FrenchDrop wrote: You can do that EASILY 
PM me for an idea
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micromega123 Loyal user 212 Posts
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On 2011-09-08 09:16, Count Hatrick wrote: When I first starting learning card magic I learned this control. I got caught the first time that I did it, and I haven't done it since (this was a long time ago, and I probably did it very poorly). I like to think that I've come a long way since then, and I still practice this shuffle, but that incident scarred me a bit. I've been too nervous to try it again. I can do the shuffle without looking at my hands, but the thought that is constantly on my mind is that if the spectator is looking at the deck, they are going to see a 'tell' when I run the single card. I can't guarantee that the spectator is not going to be looking at the deck, even if I try to engage them in converstation, and this is what makes me nervous. I've since read other ways of doing the shuffle (e.g. running several cards before the i***g and then showing that the card is not at the top); however, to me, this would seem to needlessly prolong the shuffling sequence. My main question at this point is whether you should try to turn your body to hide the moment you do the i***g or whether I'm just being paranoid and I should just do it as long as I'm not looking at the deck and I'm able to do it without having to think about it. |
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Fin Veteran user 322 Posts
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Micromega123, in my opinion the best way to "hide" that moment you are worrying about is to use EYE CONTACT. Look at the spectator and say something like "now don't forget your card", or maybe "and that was a free selection you just made?". In that brief moment that you make eye contact, begin the shuffle, running off the first card etc. Now by the time you both look back towards the deck you are already halfway through the shuffle.
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Bulla Special user Honolulu, HI 674 Posts
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet but I use the overhand shuffle finesse by Larry Jennings found in Jennings '67.
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harbour Loyal user 283 Posts
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If you have to look, you've lost the cadence and the effect.
I personally go for the Ackerman pinky |
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R.E. Byrnes Inner circle 1206 Posts
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Couple angstroms, never more
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James Kellogg III Regular user San Diego 117 Posts
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Just injog the card don't worry about how far it sticks out no one cares
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magicfish Inner circle 7016 Posts
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On 2013-04-10 16:16, James Kellogg III wrote: I disagree. |
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Cain Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 1553 Posts
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I keep an injog that's deep enough, but not too deep.
Hope this helps!
Ellusionst discussing the Arcane Playing cards: "Michaelangelo took four years to create the Sistine Chapel masterpiece... these took five."
Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes: "You know Einstein got bad grades as a kid? Well, mine are even worse!" |
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Merc Man Inner circle NUNEATON, Warwickshire 2536 Posts
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How far do I I jog?
Errrrr........2.679mm recurring. Works every time.
Barry Allen
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Philip Busk Loyal user 229 Posts
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Exactly half an inch. All kidding aside, I'm in that general distance but don't think about it. Contrary to his answer in this thread Harry Lorayne, in Close-Up Card Magic, says about a half an inch.
Philip Busk
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