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They are now available in white:

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S14006
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What does the white version do in comparison to the standard version?
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On 2012-02-08 15:06, Hughdini wrote:
What does the white version do in comparison to the standard version?


With the white version, you can make a koala disappear, whereas with the black one, you could not do that... Smile
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On 2012-02-08 15:06, Hughdini wrote:
What does the white version do in comparison to the standard version?


With the white version, you can make a koala disappear, whereas with the black one, you could not do that... Smile


Do you know if the Koala is included with this effect?

Thanks!

-Altrez

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Altrez, I think it's much more effective to borrow a spectator's koala.
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Make sure to get it signed!!!
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Don't believe them !
They make a joke of it.
I have tried it personaly and you can see clearly the black nose of the koala.
Unless they mean a koala with a white nose of course.(I have not tried that one)
Even with such a koala (with the white nose) you must use a WHITE marker to let him sign.
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It's for magicians who work with blanco cards (Blizzard, Nudist deck ect.)
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A word of warning-- I've visited all the local stores I could think of and could not find a White dress shirt opaque enough to hide the white gimmick.
I'm not sure such a shirt is out there, though I would be interested if people do find a brand that works.

Frank
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The only reason I ordered a white unit was so that I could use it with light colored shirts. Same as I use the black one with any dark colored shirts. I personally don’t think that the shirt color needs to match the device perfectly or even near perfect.

Jim
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I use Express Shirts when I want to wear a white shirt. They are thicker than your average white shirt. If you wear a white under shirt, that should cover you for shirts that are more see through.

As J-Mac said, white is meant for lighter colored shirts, and black is made for darker colored shirts.
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I don't have this yet. But if a signed card could appear inside a spectator's wallet, why does the magician need to get it from inside the wallet? I'm not questioning this utility that seems A GREAT IDEA, but I'm only thinking about the structure of the effect itself (I'm talking only about the signed card at spectator's wallet). If it is what I'm thinking, you have to get the signed card from the utility (I mean, from the spectator's wallet) at worst moment possible, when the spectator just expect you to open the wallet. I didn't read the entire thread, so maybe somebody already said something about this. Sorry for my english.
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On 2012-03-02 13:04, Mesquita wrote:
I don't have this yet. But if a signed card could appear inside a spectator's wallet, why does the magician need to get it from inside the wallet? I'm not questioning this utility that seems A GREAT IDEA, but I'm only thinking about the structure of the effect itself (I'm talking only about the signed card at spectator's wallet). If it is what I'm thinking, you have to get the signed card from the utility (I mean, from the spectator's wallet) at worst moment possible, when the spectator just expect you to open the wallet. I didn't read the entire thread, so maybe somebody already said something about this. Sorry for my english.


Your english is just fine!

This is a card control utility. It allows you to steal the signed card from the deck and retrieve it from the utility to appear wherever you like. It can't make the card appear in their wallet with it in their pocket ( that would be real magic ). But it allows you take their wallet and pull it out part way and let them do the rest. It's not a bad moment because your hands are completely empty when you handle their wallet.

I don't think their is much else to tell without exposing it.
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On 2012-03-02 13:04, Mesquita wrote:
I don't have this yet. But if a signed card could appear inside a spectator's wallet, why does the magician need to get it from inside the wallet? I'm not questioning this utility that seems A GREAT IDEA, but I'm only thinking about the structure of the effect itself (I'm talking only about the signed card at spectator's wallet). If it is what I'm thinking, you have to get the signed card from the utility (I mean, from the spectator's wallet) at worst moment possible, when the spectator just expect you to open the wallet. I didn't read the entire thread, so maybe somebody already said something about this. Sorry for my english.


Your english is just fine!

This is a card control utility. It allows you to steal the signed card from the deck and retrieve it from the utility to appear wherever you like. It can't make the card appear in their wallet with it in their pocket ( that would be real magic ). But it allows you take their wallet and pull it out part way and let them do the rest. It's not a bad moment because your hands are completely empty when you handle their wallet.

I don't think their is much else to tell without exposing it.


Thanks Zombie Magic!!!

I know that make a card appear (really) inside the spectator's wallet is real magic... but that's exactly what we want the spectator think. If I say that a card is inside his wallet, but I need to get it from inside (and probably not in the cleanest way), this is not magic (in my opinion) if I think like a layman.

When the spectator think how could I get it from inside his wallet he will probably think "the only way is that he put it inside when he got my wallet" and he will be right... This destroys the magic. I may be wrong, but that's why I think they don't put all the presentation of the effect on the demo video, it would be clear how and when the magician puts (I mean, get) the card.

I'm really thinking to buy this effect, and I'll probably, but If I buy this I will probably use for other effects or maybe try to reconstruct the effect itself. Like I said, this utility seems to be a VERY GOOD IDEA for other uses.

But again, this is just my opinion and maybe it's just me.

Thanks again for your answer.

Regards
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Mesquita,

You're right, to an extent. The presentation that is on the demo video is not what I use this for, though it can be presented fairly by those who do. Of course it's not the most logical scenario, but then again most magic routines are not exactly realistic. The premise is that the card was in their wallet and you are showing them by removing the card in front of them. Yes, the spectator will know that you somehow put the card there in the first place, but they don't know how or when. It should invoke their curiosity and get them wondering. But don't most, if not all, magic routines do the same? Surely spectators "know" that you somehow put their card in your own wallet when you perform a CTW routine! But they don't know how or when you did it. As long as you are not appearing to challenge them all should be good.

As you mentioned the UCCU can be used in many other ways. After all, it is a utility device, not a magic prop. You will find many different uses for it.

Thanks!

Jim
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On 2012-03-02 16:37, J-Mac wrote:
Mesquita,

You're right, to an extent. The presentation that is on the demo video is not what I use this for, though it can be presented fairly by those who do. Of course it's not the most logical scenario, but then again most magic routines are not exactly realistic. The premise is that the card was in their wallet and you are showing them by removing the card in front of them. Yes, the spectator will know that you somehow put the card there in the first place, but they don't know how or when. It should invoke their curiosity and get them wondering. But don't most, if not all, magic routines do the same? Surely spectators "know" that you somehow put their card in your own wallet when you perform a CTW routine! But they don't know how or when you did it. As long as you are not appearing to challenge them all should be good.

As you mentioned the UCCU can be used in many other ways. After all, it is a utility device, not a magic prop. You will find many different uses for it.

Thanks!

Jim


Thanks Jim!

Regards,

Mesquita
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What are your guys' favorite effects using the gimmick? I'm curious as to what everyone's come up with Smile.
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On 2012-03-13 16:57, sohaib wrote:
What are your guys' favorite effects using the gimmick? I'm curious as to what everyone's come up with Smile.


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My favorite effect with this is: card to water melon. you have to take the biggest water melon out there and have
a very strong spectator holding it. then, abra cadabra and the card jumps from the deck into the melon.

get's great reactions, espacially from the Koalas wit the black nose Smile

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I did a card from a large Seashell... on a beach, in shorts and short sleeved shirt and sandals. ... you can do a heck of a lot with this thing.
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