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The most closely guarded secret in magic?
Simple........ It's how to truly ENTERTAIN people and get repeat bookings! |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24272 Posts
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That's actually not true at all. It's been well-documented. However, nobody who does magic seems to be able to put the concepts of entertainment and magic together...except for a handful of performers.
The rest ignore the books and go around pinching material, thinking that if you say the same words and try to do the same tricks as the fellows who do entertain people and do get repeat bookings, that you will have the same results. They never seem to understand that it's not the words or the tricks -- it's how you say them and do them. The problem with the average magician is exactly that.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24272 Posts
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BTW, evidently one of the most closely quarded (sic) secrets in magic is the difference between a q and a g.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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ringmaster Inner circle Memphis, Down in Dixie 1814 Posts
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It's not a great way to pick up girls.
Bally Hoo and Hullabaloo
one for me and none for you. |
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bblumen Special user Baltimore 987 Posts
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On 2011-09-13 11:20, Bill Palmer wrote: Bravo! Brian
"Lulling the minds of your company is more important than dazzling their eyes." Ed Marlo
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts
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On 2011-09-13 11:20, Bill Palmer wrote: :applause: 
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11160 Posts
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On 2011-09-13 11:20, Bill Palmer wrote: I'm qlad someone else noticed this.
~michael baker
The Magic Company |
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Ekuth Inner circle Floating above my 1539 Posts
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On 2011-09-13 11:20, Bill Palmer wrote: QFT.
"All you need is in Fitzkee."
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randirain Inner circle Fort Worth, TX 1627 Posts
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What about the 'Devils Harem' illusion?
No one does that, no one knows how it works, no one really knows how it goes.. Total Mystery. Randi  |
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sleightly Elite user New Hampshire 500 Posts
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Wow. Was that the "Devils Harem" piece that was featured by the Bouton brothers? I perform periodically in an opera house in northern New Hampshire and this piece was mentioned in the local paper. I have been trying to get more information on it for years!
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24272 Posts
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On 2011-09-13 15:54, randirain wrote: First, you need a goat. Then you need a full moon, preferrably by one of the Kardashian sisters.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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RS1963 Inner circle 2719 Posts
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Three people can keep a secret, as long as two of them are dead. That was posted by a friend of mine on Face Book.
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randirain Inner circle Fort Worth, TX 1627 Posts
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On 2011-09-15 13:47, Bill Palmer wrote: See.. That just proves it. Bill really knows the secret to the Hooker Card Rise and to the Devil's Harem, he's just not going to tell us. That's alright. See if we care. Randi |
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5353 Posts
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Actually the "Devil's Harem" is a classic of early stage magic almost forgotten. It was published once in an obscure Polish magic book. The book was thought lost when the German's burned the Prague Library in the early 1940's. The Russian magician Igor Kio actually found the partially burned but rescued book when he was entertaining the occupying Red army shortly after the Russians repatriated Poland.
Kio managed to stage the illusion just once but stated that it was just too complicated and too demanding to ever try again. I believe that one of the assistants lost her legs in that presentation. Melbourne Christopher documented this and was going to include it in his second book on the History of Magic. Unfortunately the manuscript was never completed.
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24272 Posts
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That's a better trick than you know. Prague isn't in Poland. It's in the Czech Republic.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5353 Posts
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The book was published in Poland; the only known existing copy at the time was in the Prague Library’s special collection section which was open to serious scholars only. Several unique, one-of-a-kind books and manuscripts (and a scroll or two) were lost or believed lost in that fire. A couple of them have turned up in collections over the decades. Perhaps the library was looted prior to being burned or perhaps the fire was not as total as reported.
I don't remember how Kio came across his copy. I only got to speed read the Christopher mss. once. The discription of the illusion was unbeliveable!
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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Tim Dowd Special user ...Making the Magic Happen! 942 Posts
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On 2011-09-16 06:29, Harry Murphy wrote: Don't believe you... 
Timothy Dowd
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5353 Posts
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Yeah I know, it is a convoluted tale of a trick.
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24272 Posts
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Seriously, one of the most guarded secrets in magic was the Vanek Decapitation Illusion. This was done with an audience volunteer, without any kind of cabinetry, etc. It was quite realistic.
And, no, Nikola Tesla had nothing to do with it!
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5353 Posts
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Bill, are you referring to Joseph Vanek (1818-1889)and his illusion where he aparently removed the head of a person (spectator?) and walked away from the body with it? That had to be one heck of an illusion.
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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