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VE Day New user LONDON, England, UK 94 Posts |
When I perform Passe Passe Bottle Glass I end up with various bottles and a glass of wine on the table, plus another 'You Know What' hidden inside a 'You Know What'.
Do other folks always bring a separate table when performing this effect so that they don't have to clear the table when they move onto their next routine? Or you stop and clear the table before the next routine? Or do you have an alternative suggestion please? I am of the mind to bring two tables - one rectangle table for the Passe Passe Bottle Glass and a small square table for what follows. Does anyone else do differently, or have an alternative idea about how to stage it? I don't want to end with it as I begin the routine with my appearing glass of wine, which is quick and always gets a strong applause so I'd prefer to start my set with it. Hope you don't mind me asking please. Thank you. |
billappleton Inner circle Los Gatos, California 1154 Posts |
I bring in my main table and four stackable trays
on set up I put complex stuff on each tray and move them somewhere back stage or off to the side I can bring in any tray or take away an old one as needed each tray and the main table are covered with neoprene the trays have legs so you can see under them, this is nice for some things like multiplying bottles where people might suspect the table so another tray might be die box with top hat and canes with silks another might be liquid tricks all set up, etc. you can also use a tray for close up sitting down in the middle of a group hope that helps |
mtpascoe Inner circle 1932 Posts |
I do the Mulitplying Bottles which is similar. I make sure my table is big enough for the finale. Also, I stage management to make sure that my table is cleared ahead of time. Jeff McBride suggested putting the tubes and glasses in a decorative box from Target that I put my props into.
When I need the Multiplying Bottles, I reach into the box with my right hand and grip the opening of the bottles with my two fingers. At the same time I wedge them against the tube. Then, with the left hand place the palm of the hand against the glasses, bottles, and tube. Then I pull out the entire thing as one and place it on the table. Then after I am done, I cover the multiplied bottles with a box that bottles of alcohol come in. I make sure that the top and bottom is cut out. I just cover the tricked bottles with this box. This way I can carry the table of with out the bottles falling off. |
Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
When I use Multiplying Bottles, I use it as a closer, so don't really have the problem. But, it seems Victoria is using this in the middle of the act, with other routines to follow??
If so, the tray idea is pretty sound. A side table can be used to move that tray to, if not perform the entire effect from. The only thing to be aware of is that any side table looks strong enough to hold as many bottles as are produced. I've seen skinny, music stand tables supposedly holding up 8 or 9 bottles. That's not the trick you want to convey.
~michael baker
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Yes Victoria, if you are doing it as you described you should use another table of some kind. A tea cart, would work nicely, so you can move it to the side out of the way of center performance area. It would be best to have a cloth or better a 4 sided box without the top or bottom to place over the bottles, in case they start to fall, they will not fall off the table or cart.
If you have seen the new Multiplying Bottle trays, are designed so they can move the bottles are nice also. See here: http://www.fabmagic.com/mubohofab.html |
VE Day New user LONDON, England, UK 94 Posts |
Thanks for all your advice, there's some great ideas here.
The tea cart is a nice idea. I don't know how much use the commercially sold Multiplying Bottle Tray would be to me as I have my own Realistic Passe Passe Bottle Glass set that I made myself here in London, so the bottles aren't the same dimensions as the commercially available sets, my set matches the size of a standard 750ml red wine bottle, with standard sized clear spirits bottles that act as the 'extra' bottles. It doesn't have as many bottles in the set as the commercially available alluminium bottle sets as I have tried to get away from that old Ken Brooke routine. The other ideas mentioned above are a real help. I guess if I have a tray on the table to begin with, with which is covered with the same fabric as the table cloth, then I could perform the opening routine Passe Passe Bottle Glass from the tray, then place the box over the top as described and lift the whole tray and box off and to one side and then use the same table to perform my next routine, rather than bring a second table. I guess the tray could be placed anywhere level - even straddled between 2 chairs. Some nice suggestions above and a real help. Thank you. |
MuleePete Loyal user 272 Posts |
The tray wmhegbli has referenced is very good for moving the bottles without fear of dropping the bottles.
I open with Misers Dream and move on to MB. My table is one I made from plans found on another thread on MC. The top is removable and I made two, one specifically to move the bottles and tubes from the table. I then just reach down and put the second top in its place and continue with my SC. Also, like Michael said, the illusion of the heavyness of the bottles needs to be kept when moving them. Wobbling and clinking does not maintain the illusion IMO. Pete |
VE Day New user LONDON, England, UK 94 Posts |
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On 2011-09-14 19:50, MuleePete wrote: I agree totally. And it also goes for handling the tubes before all the bottles have appeared. I have seen a lot of clips of various folks performing the Multiplying Bottles and even very highly paid Las Vegas Magicians appear to be handling the two "empty" tubes like they each have a kilo of bottles inside each of them. I think one of the most important aspects of the traditional Passe Passe Bottle Glass effect is that both tubes are shown empty before the trick begins. Its not magic if you don't demonstrate the tubes are empty at the start (in my opinion). |
Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5444 Posts |
I simply put the bottles in a Styrofoam wine bottle shipper (actually the bottom half of the shipper. It holds 12 bottles so there is room for the tubes and the glasses. I have made a cloth bag with handles that it sits in. It looks for all the world like a large shopping bag.
I got the shipper free from a local Liquor store (it was trash to them). However they are easily found. For example here’s one: http://www.boxvendor.com/wineshipper-12p......box.aspx I also agree that the tubes should be handled as if they are feather light and empty and the bottles handled as if they are full and heavy. Think Wonder and Losander's floating illusion in reverse. I also made a foam board nine bottle carrier much like an old fashion soft drink six pack carton but made to hold a nine pack.
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