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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
I am currently working on a billiard ball act that will utilize color changes of the balls during the transition phases. I thought it would be interesting to also include color changing gloves as well into this routine.
If I can accomplish this, then I could open myself up to a very nice "Midas Touch" type of an idea where the balls are changing colors by me touching the ball with that colored glove. If the glove then changed color, it would not only be an interesting concept, but would add in depth to the act. With this said, does anyone know where I can find information on performing the color changing gloves? Is there a marketed effect out there for this? Has anyone tried this themselves and would not mind PMing me with some suggestions? Any information would help me to research this more and get me headed down the right path. Thanks in advance to anyone who has information. That is alright Tom. I was just hoping someone out there might have some ideas as to how this could be done. I am sure I have seen it performed before on stage. I think it would be a really wonderful bit of magic. If you come across anything, please let me know.
Kyle Peron
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-The Scot- Special user 726 Posts |
You could use a sort of enlarged dye tube method for changing colour of gloves, but it would be far from instantaneous (your desired effect).
Ah well, might spark off a few ideas! Kevin |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Kevin:
Thanks for the ideas and please keep them coming. However, you are right in that I am looking for a color change on the glove that does not rely so much on a prop. I was trying to find something that is a bit more instant in its appearance to the audience. I was playing around with the idea of even doing a color change where the finger on the gloves could or can change. If this is the case, then it would possibly be an idea to use the finger as a sleeve overlay. Meaning your gloves on the finger would be changed to begin with. Maybe by dying it a different color or by sewing a new finger in place of the old one. Then you could use the old finger that you just cut and use that as a sleeve that would go over top of the glove. From the audience, it would look normal. To make the change you would only simply have to grab the sleeve on the finger and steal it off. This could be accomplished with the other hand or by the cover of a colored silk. What do you all think? It is just a starting point and an idea I thought of yesterday. Other concepts may spring from this. I will share my thoughts as I go through this brainstorming process.
Kyle Peron
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Covernton Regular user Vancouver 124 Posts |
Could you maybe do a paddle move with your whole hand?
Say you had gloves coloured differently on either side, except the order was reversed on each hand...you could stand to your left and you'd have, say, red gloves, and when you turned to the right, your gloves could instantly colour change. Then pull them off immediately. The insides would both be of a single uniform colour so that it would appear that you changed the colour suddenly, then pulled off gloves entirely of the new colour. -Covernton Just a thought |
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-The Scot- Special user 726 Posts |
You could make a quick change outfit for your gloves.
It wouldn't be hard but you would only be able to show one side of the glove to the audience. If you need help with that PM me as it is revealing a bit much explaining it here. Kevin |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Kevin:
Yes, please PM me your detailed thoughts on this. I like the idea and wish to hear more about it. I also like covernton's idea as well. That could be a very easy way to make a color change during an act and have it look striking. The only problem with that is the limitations with angles. It is still worth exploring though. Thanks for posting these ideas and keep the ideas coming. We are all starting to think very creatively on this. Kevin: I am also thinking along the lines of a costume change with the gloves and the idea of a full-glove overlay. I think it could work well and would then just be a matter of stealing off the overlay sleeve. I will tell you more about this in my PM response back to you.
Kyle Peron
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-The Scot- Special user 726 Posts |
Sure, Kyle. Give me a bit of time to type up what I mean. I will PM you later on tonight.
Looking forward to your response. Kevin |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Thanks Kevin:
I look forward to reading your thoughts and ideas on this. It is much appreciated.
Kyle Peron
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Patrick T. New user Esslingen / Germany 39 Posts |
Hey!!
I have seen a show here in Germany where a woman stuck her hands in this tude made out of cloth (sorry I don't know what it's called but you can put your hands in it when they are cold to warm them up). She did this about six times and changed the color of the gloves six times. Maybe that can help you. Patrick Thomas |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Patrick:
Thanks for posting that information. That does certainly open up other options for me in way of my thinking. I think you are referring to a muff that is often used to keep the hands warm when it is cold outside in winter. Do you perhaps know the method that was used for this? If so, please PM me the details. I would love to hear more. Thanks again.
Kyle Peron
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-The Scot- Special user 726 Posts |
Even just having lots of pairs of gloves on would work. If the inside was silk linen they would slip off fast—easily done behind a silk or behind your back. Don't make the method complicated! There's no need too.
Let me know how you get on. Kevin |
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Dorian Rhodell Inner circle San Francisco, CA. 1633 Posts |
In the book My Best by J.G Thompson there is a color changing gloves effect. Even if you don't use that method, it could give you an idea and additionally the entire book is very good. Worth getting.
Hope this helps a little... Dorian Rhodell |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Dorian:
Thanks so much for that reference. I will be sure to look it up at the convention I will be attending next week in PA. Kevin: Your method may work easily as well. I may also have to try that. Thanks guys.
Kyle Peron
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Lynetta Regular user Las Vegas, NV 111 Posts |
Look in The Magic of Alan Wakeling. You will find his Color Changing Gloves and also an incredible chapter on his Billiard Balls. I bought my copy from Denny and Lee. There is also a method for Color Changing Gloves in Hoffmann's Later Magic.
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Lynetta:
Wow! Thank you so much for posting here. I will certainly take a look at these next week. Denny will be at a convention I am attending and I can ask him about this. Thanks for the great sources.
Kyle Peron
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-The Scot- Special user 726 Posts |
Dropped you a PM, Kyle.
As I promised. Kevin |
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Patrick T. New user Esslingen / Germany 39 Posts |
Hi!
It's just like THE SCOT said, "You just need to find a way/place to strip out of the gloves." Patrick Thomas P.S. Yeah it's a muff, I don't know why I couldn't remember that word. |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Patrick:
Thanks for the information. It may be as simple as that, but I want to find out more research and gather information. Then I can try a few things and see what works best for me.
Kyle Peron
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-The Scot- Special user 726 Posts |
Well McBride's masks are as simple as that—and they work fine for him!
Kevin |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Kevin:
You are right. But, the only difference is that McBride's masks just lay on his face and sometimes are held together by the hat on his head. The gloves would be a bit different in that I need to be able to display them and use them for some moves prior to the color change happening. You still may be on to something here as I like the idea of just having one on top of the other. The key would be making it easy to remove the top layer glove as easily as possible. I think there are ways to do this and will just require me to experiment. I am going to a convention this coming week and will ask around, as well as search some of the references others have mentioned here. I think the best way to go about any new routine etc., is to ask your magic brethren and do as much research first. Then experiment with the various methods to see what works best for you.
Kyle Peron
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