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I recently bought an inexpensive set of linking ropes. But this also came with horrible instructions and drawings.

While I cand figure it out , like the linkking rings, I was wonder if there are DVDs explaining cool , deceptive moves and smooth handling techniques?

Who would you recommend I study?
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On 2011-09-27 01:27, Powermagic wrote:
I recently bought an inexpensive set of linking ropes. But this also came with horrible instructions and drawings.

While I cand figure it out , like the linkking rings, I was wonder if there are DVDs explaining cool , deceptive moves and smooth handling techniques?

Who would you recommend I study?

This DVD has a full tutorial on the Linking Ropes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsWClZ2rkEk
This has an ungimmicked version as well.

I also have an abridged version coming out with just the linking ropes.
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Fiber Optics by Richard Sanders has a wonderful routine and explanation of non-gimmicked linking ropes.
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Mr. Magic Ian S is being very modest. I think his work with both gimmicked and as he says UNGIMMICKED linking rope routines is first-rate. He is a good teacher and his DVD offers a lot of useful insights. Another approach to non-gimmicked linking rings can be found in a booklet by the Baltimore magician, Wayne Raeke, that is available from Martini Magic (Marty Grams).
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On 2011-09-27 11:09, Devious wrote:
Fiber Optics by Richard Sanders has a wonderful routine and explanation of non-gimmicked linking ropes.

I don't remember any linking in Sanders DVD.
Oh, and thanks Woland.
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IAN... that video was AWESOME
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On 2011-09-28 12:06, Pete Biro wrote:
IAN... that video was AWESOME

Thanks, Pete.
I thought you had seen that.
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I don't mean to hijack this thread, but I doubt that anyone else has a tutorial on the linking ropes that goes into this much depth. Loftus magic (Empire linking ropes) has commissioned me to do their Linking ropes DVD (just LR, not the Dances effect). This will be available before the New Year ($10 or $12 bucks). The Dances with ropes DVD has most of the material that will be included.
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What do you think of this dvd and routine?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8neRvBpNXs
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What do you think of this dvd and routine?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8neRvBpNXs

Love Jeremy's work. His other routines (later in 2009) are better. He uses two sets in that clip.
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Are his moves different than say Ian's or just modifications of the basics?
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The video clip you cited, is just modifications of the basics. The addition of color is nothing special, and using a fourth loop ( and gimmick) just facilitates an extra link of two sets. "Dances with ropes" uses linking ropes as a secret gimmick to achieve new moves. The new DVD coming out, standard and original flourishes, but does not include the "Dances" routine.
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So the dancey routine is the professors nightmare? SO I if I do not need that part, you are sayng the new DVD will have new moves as well as the standard just without PN?
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On 2011-09-27 01:27, Powermagic wrote:

While I cand figure it out, like the linking rings, I was wonder if there are DVDs explaining cool, deceptive moves and smooth handling techniques?

Who would you recommend I study?

The 'Dances with Ropes' DVD is the routine as you see it in Ian's video link. It uses one linking rope set to do both the PN and linking ropes.
Jeremy Pei's routine is very nice. I think the "4th loop & gimmick" is a nice touch, fooled me the first time.

However, I don't think you can find anything on the Linking Ropes that is remotely close to the volume of material available on the Linking Rings.
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I recently bought an inexpensive set of linking ropes. But this also came with horrible instructions and drawings.

While I can figure it out, like the linking rings, I was wonder if there are DVDs explaining cool, deceptive moves and smooth handling techniques?

Who would you recommend I study?

This is how magic has always been sold until the last few years. You bought a trick and only received the basic explanation to the working. This left the routine and presentation up to the purchaser.

I don't believe anyone worked this effect up into a the master piece it can be with thought and proper presentation. It has always been a good magic shop seller for dealers as is. There may be some good funny presentation that could be created with this prop. It only takes talent, great patter, and lots of trial and error.

No one uses the stage whisper anymore, and this could be a good place to use it with the spectator. Have them unlink the a rope, so they untie it. Have them link the ropes and they tie one onto another.

Lots of possibilities that have never been tired or used.

As it is kind of puzzling penetration effect.
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Jeremy's routine is excellent.
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Sometime in the past year or so someone posted a link to a YouTube clip of a magician on an Argentine television program, if memory serves, performing a very nice, silent-to-music linking ropes routine. I regret that despite extensive searches, I can't find the link, but I do remember that several commenters thought it was well worth watching.
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On 2011-09-29 21:34, Powermagic wrote:
So the dancey routine is the professors nightmare? SO I if I do not need that part, you are sayng the new DVD will have new moves as well as the standard just without PN?

No, you have is backwards.
The new DVD has: linking ropes and some other moves..(a beginner/intermediate DVD).

Dances has that plus: professors nightmare blend into linking ropes and back (see video clip)

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On 2011-09-27 01:27, Powermagic wrote:
I recently bought an inexpensive set of linking ropes. But this also came with horrible instructions and drawings.

While I can figure it out, like the linking rings, I was wonder if there are DVDs explaining cool, deceptive moves and smooth handling techniques?

Who would you recommend I study?

This is how magic has always been sold until the last few years. You bought a trick and only received the basic explanation to the working. This left the routine and presentation up to the purchaser.

I don't believe anyone worked this effect up into a the master piece it can be with thought and proper presentation. It has always been a good magic shop seller for dealers as is. There may be some good funny presentation that could be created with this prop. It only takes talent, great patter, and lots of trial and error.

No one uses the stage whisper anymore, and this could be a good place to use it with the spectator. Have them unlink the a rope, so they untie it. Have them link the ropes and they tie one onto another.

Lots of possibilities that have never been tired or used.

As it is kind of puzzling penetration effect.

William, there is no stage whisper you could do to have the spectator do what you stated.
I have had spectators tie the gimmick rope and that is as adventuresome as you want to get. My lecture on this has outs in case the ropes separate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi9LMKq7tp8

Jeremy Pei and I are one of the few experts on this effect. He does strictly no-touch stage effect. I do both.
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My desire for the WORK on this is because while this has been around long time, I never had a set. but I was going to be doign some magic in Asia and I had to carry everything in a day pack that I could perform on the spot. I figured , since I know advanced ring moves I could pick up this quickly. However the set of ropes and instructions were lacking as I stated. While I was figuring out my own ways to do a link, and some seemed smooth, I saw some on line that had me wondering if it was just the low resolution video or if there was more to it.

I tihnk many Pete, feel it is a kid magician trick but as you have seen, it can be just as much of a mystery as the rings in teh right hands and can pack small play big. And in a way, it is more of a mystery since the audience can tie the ropes so know they are solid when tied. Where as the rings, are found in plastic kid sets and even the dollar store and some have an idea of how they work. So to take simple ropes, have them tied by the audience and still be able to link and unlink is even stronger in some ways.

And I have been reading some info,(not methods but info) non gimicked ways of linking. I only saw one vid on line and I was not impressed since it was a link but not the fluid linking and unlinking just ungimmicked. IT was only a link and then hand out.


Find out that there were some who have this appreciation for this effect and have worked it out to a point of teaching it on DVD was my goal.
Finding what "work" has been published helps prevent reinventing the wheel.

I wonder if Jeremy Pei ropes are worth the price tag? Ians video is a bargain in comparison. My cheap ropes are a little stiff and yellowed from the glue over all OK. I am just wondering if there are better looking gimmicks than others or if it is all the same rope gimmick just one has more care in manufacturing than $4 set.
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TENYO marketed a great set from Hungarian magician Peter Gloviczy... well worth trying to get.
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