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Hansel Inner circle Puerto Rico 2492 Posts |
WOW! That's amazing ! You find a very nice character form inside a block of wood !
Congratulations ! -H
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Dickens & Dave Inner circle North Central Florida 1813 Posts |
Jim, the main benefit to direct linkage is not having the string. Strings can stretch, they can age and break. But I don't think it's a big deal, for me anyway, having the string instead of linkage would not stop me from buying a figure.
As for eyes, my first figures, and the one I had made for me were non-self-centering, or non-anything. Wherever they are when you let go of the control, that's where they are, that's the way I preferred, I wanted total control of where and when the eyes moved, I didn't want them automatically springing back to some position (that also fits in with KISS, no springs needed). But I did end up with a few figures that had self-centering eyes and I liked it the way that worked, but if I were to order a figure to be made for me, I would probably still go with the total control type eyes.
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manal Inner circle York ,PA. 1412 Posts |
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On 2011-09-29 09:42, blueshawk1 wrote: Thanks Dave, I hadn't even considered eyes that didn't have a spring to control them. I wrongly assumed that eyes either didn't move or had some type of centering ( or off centering) control. |
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Dickens & Dave Inner circle North Central Florida 1813 Posts |
I think the self centering are the most common, but that's just the impression I've gotten over the years, but I do know there are other people like me who like moving the eyes completely manually.
Anyway, folks, Jim sent me some picture updates, it just keeps looking better and better!
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marshalldoll Special user 554 Posts |
Just remember that direct linkage does not mean there will be no problem. Just the oposite. The joints have to be soldered and when they break, and they do just ask wanlu, it can be a nightmare to repair. Depending on where the break occurs other mechanics may have to be undone and removed to make the repair. I have Frank Marshall figures that are 80 years old with the original cords in them and they are fine. Chuck Jackson never did direct linkage and his figures mechanics are great. As matter of fact Tim Cowles has copied Chucks mecanics and head stick. Cord is very easy to fix as well when it breaks.
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Hansel Inner circle Puerto Rico 2492 Posts |
AWESOME! This process is very exciting ! I can't wait to see the final dummy !!!
Good job !!! -H
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Dickens & Dave Inner circle North Central Florida 1813 Posts |
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On 2011-09-29 19:05, marshalldoll wrote: Not all direct linkage setups have to be soldered, that is just one way to do it. I've done it differently myself - had to do it differently because I can't solder to save my life. But one part of what you said is correct, string breakage isn't a common thing, and the cord can last the life of most people who own the figure. Like anything else, it no doubt depends on the quality of the cord used and the most importantly, the care the figure gets.
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Howie Diddot Inner circle San Francisco & Los Angeles California 3288 Posts |
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On 2011-09-29 20:18, blueshawk1 wrote: I agree with you, as I understand it from my research joints don’t HAVE to be soldered, many designers have used other methods and they seem to work very well |
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Steve at The Dummy Shoppe Elite user 479 Posts |
If you will go to your local professional kite shop where they sell the big boy type kites, buy a roll of the string they sell for the kites. Takes a couple of hundred pounds of pull to break it and it has virtually no fray problems. The only thing you have to be careful of is that when you do cut it, it will unravel badly unless you take a lighter and burn the cut ends. Wait just a few seconds for it to get below molten temp. and then roll it in your fingers to create a ball on the end. Good stuff.
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Dickens & Dave Inner circle North Central Florida 1813 Posts |
I've tried using string like that for some other things, I forget what now, not anything vent, I personally didn't like it.
The cord I've used is a heavy white cord - I don't currently have access to the package I have on hand, so I can't even go get it to say exactly what it is, but it reminds me a lot of cord from old-fashioned blinds (no, I'm not talking newer mini-blinds).
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Howie Diddot Inner circle San Francisco & Los Angeles California 3288 Posts |
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On 2011-09-29 20:35, Steve at The Dummy Shoppe wrote: On my 50 foot boat, I have used line and had to cut it to certain lengths; heating it up to the necessary temperature to weld it together and then roll it in the tips of a person’s fingers is not a safe, or healthy procedure to follow; any professional would purchase a heated cutting knife to safely heat cut and weld the end of a rope. I own a heated cutting knife and it was a very good purchase; using it makes my docking lines very neat |
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Steve at The Dummy Shoppe Elite user 479 Posts |
Dave,
The string I'm talking about does look like your description of blind chord. It is stranded and twisted, not to be mistaken with ordinary kite string. It is sold around here for kites that may have as much as a 10' wing span. As far as a heated knife, that is ok, but a match is pretty inexpensive. I've used this process at two different Nuclear Plants where I worked as a EE, and neither the safety people or the environmental folks had any problem with it. So for those that want to spend $50.00 for a tool they might use once in a blue moon to avoid using a match or lighter - be my guest. Steve http://www.thedummyshoppe.com |
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Dickens & Dave Inner circle North Central Florida 1813 Posts |
Okay, I must be thinking of ordinary kite string, it's twisted and stranded too, but it's not really a heavy gauge. As I recall, it was nylon, I didn't care for it. But this stuff you're talking about must be different. Now that I think about it, I burned the ends of the stuff I used too, that's hard to forget because the first time I wasn't being very careful and dripped a piece on my hand - I'd have made a drunken sailor blush with what came out of my mouth.
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Steve at The Dummy Shoppe Elite user 479 Posts |
I'll bet you said something like, "By Gosh Dave, you really must be more careful now" or something like that. You are right though, all you will have to do is twist the stuff a bit too fast and you won't do it again. Like Richard Pryor said "Fire is inspirational" and the stuff does stick to your fingers when you don't wait the proper amount of time.
If you will PM me with your email address, I will shoot a pic of the stuff I'm talking about next to kite string so you can see the difference. There is also another kind of string we have experimented with and it is even heavier, but can cause a bit more friction when moving through eyes and other direction transitions. It is the stuff that construction crews use to stretch lines when they are setting up batter boards on a new foundation. Lowes and Home Depot both sell it in a couple of colors. White, bright orange and off red. Steve http://www.thedummyshoppe.com |
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Dickens & Dave Inner circle North Central Florida 1813 Posts |
I appreciate the offer for the pic, but I don't need it, I've got so much of the stuff I use, I won't be shopping for anything else for a while.
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manal Inner circle York ,PA. 1412 Posts |
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On 2011-09-29 21:35, Steve at The Dummy Shoppe wrote: Masons String, the other type Steve experimented with ,it also comes in yellow.I used this on my first vent head with so far no problems and heated the ends to prevent unravelling. I believe all the string being discussed is nylon. When I was in the Navy we melted the end of the nylon rope we used for the motor whaleboats bumpers. I believe some builders use fishing string and leaders as well as barrel swivels from the fishing section of your favorite store. |
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Servante Inner circle 1330 Posts |
Y'know, some vent-building book or pamphlet or cave drawing I have here somewhere recommends masons string, now that ou mention it. As for the barrel swivel, that's either a dance step or somethin' dirty, I think.
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Dickens & Dave Inner circle North Central Florida 1813 Posts |
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On 2011-09-30 09:43, Servante wrote: I was going to say that's the polish version of dirty dancing, but I don't want to offend the PC crowd, so I won't say it.
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Chatterbox41 Veteran user Atlanta, Georgia 349 Posts |
So maybe it's the PC version of dirty dancing?
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Dickens & Dave Inner circle North Central Florida 1813 Posts |
Or could also be the Mac version of dirty dancing...
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