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Bill Hegbli
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For a very limited time, I have uploaded a video to YouTube for a rare glimps for the members of the Café to see the famous Roy Johnson perform the Nemo Jumbo Rising Cards. For those that do not know, Roy Johnson is the creative genius of many of the tricks sold buy the late great Ken Brooke of London, England.

There is little footage of this trick being performed, and not much of it being performed by the person who worked out most of the kinks in the effect when it was introduced to the magic community.

This is not a demo, but an actual live performance at a gathering of magicians in Germany.

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-sA6QqtYPo
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Awesome.

Thanks Bill

Can you tell us more about the history of this?
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Yes thanks for posting
Harry Murphy
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I liked Roy’s presentation very much! Very smooth! Thank you for posting it!
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Having been involved with this from he beginning, I can fill you in.

Jim Hooper, who was "Nemo" (he was Ken Brooke's back room genius) came up with the basic concept. Roy Johnson and Bunny Neil worked out the routine.

One of the most entertaining routines was Paul Daniels', which you can see by going here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlAcU56AZnQ&feature=related

This was on Shirley Bassey's show and Paul refused to rehearse with her as he wanted her first reactions on TV to be spontaneous. I really like his simpler handling. When I was doing parlour parties I used the basic routine.

The trick is still available from http://www.stevensmagic.com The current "deluxe" versions are all made by your humble correspondent.
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Bill Hegbli
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Pete, I am surprised you said that, as the reason I posted this video of Roy Johnson is because I do not think Paul Daniels clip does justice to this great trick. Paul chose to do a basic card rise. I guess we all have our favorites and I believe Roy's is superior and more true to the Nemo Rising Jumbo Cards manuscript.

What is so much fun to watch if you know the working, is Roy is handling the gimmick at different times during the routine, and no one knows when or how.

See all that moving around on stage of Roy Johnson, well he is in total control. It is a real lesson in prop handling on stage.
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Bill,

I have to agree with you. Roy's handling is amazing and a real fooler - even for those of us who know how it works!

Thanks again for posting!

Lou
Harry Murphy
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Yep, I just watched Paul's version a second time and Roy's a fifth (or eight) time. Paul looks like he just learned the trick that week whereas Roy is smooth and polished!
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I look at it as ENTERTAINMENT. Paul wins there. Roy's is wonderful, I wasn't knocking his way of handling the trick, but I didn't like the going into the audience and some of the moving around.

It's just my taste I guess.

Roy certainly has no fear of the method and his handling is superb. Both are well worth study.
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Even on entertainment points I give it to Roy. Then as you say it is all about taste. Horses for courses and all that. Both a very good study in how a difficult to perform prop should be handled and blocked.
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Bill Hegbli
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Yes, Harry, I am very surprised at Pete Biro comments. You really do not need that expensive outfit he is selling through Stevens Magic to do the Paul Daniels card rise.

Roy Johnson did tell me he asked the stage manager to put on the house lights, but they did not. Maybe it was a language barrier thing, don't know.

Just one of those mishaps that happen in live performances.
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That's a great clip, wmhegbli, thank you for posting it. I'm a sucker for the rising cards, it's a classic of Magic for a reason and I have many versions for close-up, platform and stage, including the Nemo Rising Cards.

When seeing Paul Daniels' performance, I see VIVACIOUS.

When seeing Roy Johnson's peformance, I see SMOOTH.

That's the thing aboug good magic performances, though....differenct magicians lend their own little personal touches to the performance of a given trick, and over time, we, as magicians, tend to absorb "a little bit of everything from any good magician's performance, file that away in our heads, then lend the trick our own persona and "shtick" as we perform it and smoother the performance out over time.

Martin Lewis is a favorite of mine, and uses a Hathaway Rising Cards, and his performance too is just terfiffic, and yet with a different ending.

Martin Lewis also points to the "three variations" in each rising card revelation for building the trick and an ending which is just a bit different.

Having said all of this, it's my belief that the Nemo Rising Cards, due to the structure of the routine, and to the fact that the spectator is holding the cards and houlette in their own hands while the magic is happening in front of their eyes in their own hands makes this version the strongest version out there for stage.

I would have loved to see either Martin Lewis or the late Billy McComb perform this trick to get their take on it, but, alas I have no knowledge that eather of them have featured the trick in their performances.

And one last thing in respect to what wmhegbli posted about Paul Daniels' performance being "a basic card rise"...having spent a career in the Broadcast TV Business, as I'm sure you're well aware, there are a number of specific technical requirements for doing Magic for Television, not the least of which is time.

In regards to "You really do not need that expensive outfit he is selling through Stevens Magic to do the Paul Daniels card rise....

Here's the link to it, I think it looks terriffic, complete and not expensive at all for a working pro who wants a commercial signature performance piece, complete with all the fixin's:

http://www.stevensmagic.com/index.php?ma......d=111598
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Peter Scarlet did a nice job with it several years ago at Abbott's.

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Wmhegbli: Just to set the record straight. I do not sell the Nemo Card Rise. Stevens does. He couldn't find anyone to make them up and asked me to do so. They are really a pain in the you know what to make, requiring a ton of hand work. Just making the envelopes for a set of four takes me a full day plus.
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Bill Hegbli
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Time is up on viewing this piece of history. Hope you all enjoyed this experience!
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Bill,

I must have missed it by minutes. Could you post it again for a day? There was no suggestion it would just be up for 48 hours or so. Many, Many Thanks
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On 2011-10-03 01:12, John wrote:
Bill,

I must have missed it by minutes. Could you post it again for a day? There was no suggestion it would just be up for 48 hours or so. Many, Many Thanks

The part where it says, for a very limited time. That means minutes and if you are lucky, hours; to my way of thinking. Well I gave you hours and only about 40 people were really interested, so I took that as members are not interested in seeing how the creator performed this classic trick.

Roy Johnson also entrusted another performance of this trick, that is even more of a fooler, for those in the know, then this version. If this 1st version showed interest, I was going to post a 2nd and dream up some kind of contest, for the person that had the correct answer.

I see no one is interested, so I will not bother.
Harry Murphy
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Whoa Bill! There are many of us interested in the classic handling of a classic trick. Unfortunately some of us don’t get on the Café more than a couple of times a week and it is easy to miss a thread. I often miss items of interest because I don’t hit every topic on the Café. In fact there are topic headings that I NEVER read because I have absolutely no interest in them. Even topics of interest will see me checking on them infrequently.

Further, I suspect that there aren’t a lot of magicians on the Café that even know the old school, history, and strength of the classics.

Thank you for posting the clip even if only a dozen or so of us watched it.
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Bill Hegbli
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Harry, I posted the link in 3 areas of the Café, The Big and Small, and Tricks and Rffects, and this forum.
Harry Murphy
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Yep you did. The Big and Small thread dates back to 09 with maybe 1200 views and only 4 current or new responses three of those are yours.

The Tricks and Effects goes back to '05 with only two current responses (both yours).

And the biggie, Boxes, Tubes, and Bags that you opened garnering 215 views and 18 responses.

I would say that about 500 (give or take) members saw your current posts. If 40 actually viewed the clip that is an OK showing. Figure that not everyone that read the posts even knows who Roy Johnson is. Probably the same people who know about the Nemo Rising Cards.
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